Magnetics of transformers and induction in metals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the induction of voltage in a secondary coil placed inside a steel pipe when a primary coil is placed outside the pipe. It explores the principles of transformers and induction in metals, particularly focusing on the effects of the steel barrier on voltage induction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that current in the primary coil induces a voltage in the secondary coil when the coils are adjacent.
  • Another participant clarifies that the induced voltage is a result of a changing magnetic field (B field) rather than the current itself, emphasizing the importance of various factors such as geometry and frequency.
  • A participant acknowledges a miswording in their initial question, indicating a focus on the current in the primary coil.
  • One participant asks if there is a specific problem related to the scenario being discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specifics of how the steel pipe affects voltage induction, and multiple views regarding the factors influencing induction remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of the steel and the configurations of the coils, which are not fully defined. The impact of these factors on the induction process is not resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electromagnetism, transformer design, and the effects of materials on induction processes may find this discussion relevant.

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If you have the primary and secondary coils of a transformer next to each other, then current will induce a voltage in the secondary coil, creating current flow. This question applies to motors as well. If I place a sheet of steel between the two coils, will I still induce a voltage? For example, say I have a steel pipe and inside the pipe I place a secondary coil of wire. Outside the pipe I place a primary coil. Can I induce a voltage in the secondary coil through the steel pipe?
 
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The answer is yes, with a lot of qualification. How much induced voltage you get will greatly depend on specific geometry of the steel, the type of steel, the coil geometries, frequency, etc.

And, it's the changing B field that induces the voltage in the secondary, not the current.
 
Thanks. I guess I worded the question incorrectly. I meant the current in the primary coil. Thanks again!
 
Do you have a specific problem in mind?
 

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