Magnifying power v/s magnification

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The discussion explores the distinction between "magnifying power" and "magnification" in the context of optical instruments such as microscopes and telescopes. It addresses the grammatical and conceptual implications of these terms, as well as their definitions and applications in optics.

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  • Some participants suggest that "magnification" refers to the object being imaged, implying that using the term for the microscope itself may be grammatically incorrect.
  • Others argue that magnification is the process of enlarging an image, while magnifying power serves as a measurement of that process.
  • A participant notes that the magnification of a lens can be infinite when the object is at the focus, which complicates the use of the term magnification in certain contexts.
  • Technical definitions are provided, with magnification defined as a ratio of image size to object size, and magnifying power defined as the ratio of angular sizes with and without the lens.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of magnification versus magnifying power, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions and contexts, such as the conditions under which magnification is considered infinite or the dependence on angular measurements, which may not be universally accepted.

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Why is it that we prefer to use magnifying power instead of magnification for optical instruments like microscopes and telescopes?
 
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I believe "magnification" refers grammatically to the object being imaged. To say that a microscope has a magnification of 10 times would technically imply that we have a picture of the microscope zoomed up. To describe the tool doing the magnifying instead of the image, we then need a different term, such as magnifying power.
 
From wikipedia on magnification:

Magnification is the process of enlarging something only in appearance, not in physical size. This enlargement is quantified by a calculated number also called "magnification". When this number is less than one it refers to a reduction in size, sometimes called "minification" or "de-magnification".

and magnifying glass:

The magnification of a magnifying glass depends upon where it is placed between the user's eye and the object being viewed, and the total distance between them. The magnifying power is equivalent to angular magnification (this should not be confused with optical power, which is a different quantity) The magnifying power is the ratio of the sizes of the images formed on the user's retina with and without the lens

It looks like Magnification is the PROCESS of magnifying something, while magnifying power is a way to measure the magnification.
 
Because technically when your object is at the focus of a lens, the magnification is infinite, but the image is infinitely far away, so what's important is the angular magnification or what's in the parlance, magnifying power, which is the ratio of the angular size of the object with the lens divided by the angular size of the object placed 25 cm in front of the unaided eye (this is the largest you'll see the object in focus).

In equations, magnification is m=\frac{y_i}{y_o}=\frac{x_i}{x_o}, while magnifying power is MP=\frac{\alpha_i}{\alpha_o}=-25(\frac{1}{x_i}-\frac{1}{f}) where subscript i stands for image, subscript o stands for object, y is the height, x is the distance to the lens, f is the focal point, and alpha is the angle with respect to the axis of lens.
 
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