Magnitude of electric field by a curved rod.

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude of the electric field at a specific point due to a curved rod with a uniform charge distribution. The problem involves concepts from electrostatics, particularly related to electric fields generated by charged objects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of charge density and the integration of electric field contributions from small charge elements along the arc. Questions arise regarding the shape of the charged rod and the appropriate equations to use, including the relevance of trigonometric functions in the integration process.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the integration limits and the inclusion of trigonometric functions in the calculations. Some guidance has been offered about considering symmetry and the contributions of electric field components, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the shape of the charged rod and whether it can be treated as circular. Participants are also questioning the necessity of certain trigonometric terms in their calculations, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the integration process.

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Homework Statement


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Determine the magnitude of the electric field at point P.

Homework Equations


lambba=(q/l)
Length of arc = (radius)(radians)

There's another equation with a sin60 in it that gives the answer, but I forgot what it is...

The Attempt at a Solution



I first tried getting lambda by diving the charge 8e-6C by the length of the arc, .418m, then put that in this equation:
[(lambda)/(4piEo)]int(1/r^s) but that didn't give me the right answer, which is 1.49e6 N/C upwards.

I know the answer and most of the information, I just don't know what equation to apply to it.
 
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Is the charged part supposed to be circular in shape? And of uniform charge density per unit length? If not, you can't do it!

You must consider a small element of length on the arc - dL,
with charge dQ = lambda*dL.
Sketch the electric field vector due to this charge at the point P. Write an expression for its magnitude. Use symmetry to decide what component of this dE will not be canceled out by a similar dQ at the opposite angle, and write an expression for this component - with a sine or cos of an angle in it. Finally, integrate over the length of the charge to sum up all the dE contributions to the total E.
 
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I attempted this first but got the wrong answer and veered off to a wrong direction trying weird equations, but with your help I tried it again and got the right answer.

Thanks for the help.
 
That isn't right - say dQ is at angle A. Then you'll have a sin(A) in your integral and A varies so it can't be taken through the integral sign.
 
Erm, sin(A) isn't in the integral at all?

Does that mean the sin 60 shouldn't be in there at all?

Should I treat it as a straight rod then?
 
The sin(A) IS in the integral. You can't take it out. You must integrate from -60 to +60 degrees and all that.
 

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