Magnitude of Electric Field from an Atom

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the magnitude of the electric field generated by a neutral neptunium atom at a specified distance from its nucleus. The context includes understanding the relationship between the number of protons and electrons in the atom and applying relevant equations from electrostatics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the formula for electric field strength and question the implications of the atom being neutral. There is exploration of Gauss's law and its relevance to the problem, as well as inquiries about the charge enclosed within a specific radius.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem, including the use of Gauss's law. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in determining the charge enclosed and how it relates to the electric field at the given distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the atomic radius of neptunium and question whether the specified distance is outside the radius of the atom, which may influence the calculations and assumptions being made.

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Homework Statement



The neutral neptunium atom has 93 electrons.
What is the magnitude of its electric field at a distance of 6.5x10-10 m from the nucleus?

Hint: The number of protons in a nucleus is equal to the number of electrons in the neutral atom.

q = 1.6e-19 * 93 = 1.48e-17
r = 6.5e-10
k = 8.99e9

Homework Equations



E = kq / r2

The Attempt at a Solution



I would think that it would just be E = kq / r2 since we have all the variables we need.

E = kq / r2
E = (8.99e9)(1.48e-17) / (6.5e-10)2
E = 1.33e-7 / (6.5e-10)2
E = 3.16e11 => 3.16 x 1011 N/C

However turns out that isn't the right answer. So i took the hint into consideration, but can't see how it fits into play. If there are 93 Electrons and 93 Protons wouldn't it mean the charge would just be 0?

Any help?
 
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Can you apply Gauss's law at this radius?
 
Sure, but what will that do?

Gauss's Law = EA
= (3.16e11)(4π(6.5e-10)2)
= 1.67e-6
 
What is the size of such a atom?
 
Well, you can relate the charge enclosed within a surface to the electric field at the surface regardless of how the charge is distributed. So at the this radius what charge is enclosed?
 
DukeLuke said:
Well, you can relate the charge enclosed within a surface to the electric field at the surface regardless of how the charge is distributed. So at the this radius what charge is enclosed?

-1.67e-6 = [k(q) / r2] * [4πr2]
-1.67e-6 / [4πr2] = [k(q) / r2]
-1.67e-6[r2] / [4πr2] = k(q)
-1.67e-6 / 4π = k(q)
-1.33e-7 = k(q)
q = -1.33e-7 / 8.99e9
q = -1.48e-17 N/C
 

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