Magnitude of force between blocks

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The discussion revolves around understanding the magnitude of force between two blocks in a physics problem, specifically focusing on the net force exerted by one block on another. The context involves forces acting on blocks with given masses and forces, and the participants are exploring how to calculate the resultant forces based on the problem statement.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the net force exerted by the small block on the large block, considering the acceleration of both blocks. There are questions about whether to combine the masses and how to account for opposing forces. Some participants express uncertainty about the correct method for calculating the total force and whether to add or subtract forces based on their directions.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculation of forces and the interpretation of the problem. Participants are exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and discussing the implications of their calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, as various approaches are being considered.

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Participants are working with specific values and assumptions from the problem statement, including given forces and masses. There is mention of online solutions that may not align with the participants' understanding or methods, which raises questions about the validity of those solutions in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


The last question on this page(#44): http://dacc.edu/~ksturgeon/106c5webpage.pdf
I haven't had any problems with any homework till now so I'm hoping for a little guidance here. I guess my main issue is I don't understand what it means by magnitude of force. Because it seems to me that the Force of the small block is already given at 6N. I haven't had any other questions quite like this and I can only find solutions online and not method.

Homework Equations



f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


a=4 for the 3kg block and 3 for the 1kg block
 
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One has to determine the net force imposed by the small block on the large block.

First one has determine the acceleration of the blocks, and the force imposed by the small block as a result of that acceleration. Then one has to determine the additional force from the imposed force.
 
So, can I combine the blocks to have 1 block at 5kg with 1 force pulling at 12Newtons and another in the opposite direction at 6 Newtons? So a 5kg block with 6 Newtons in one direction total. 6=5a so a is 1.2m/s^2. Then in addition to the 6 Newton force from the small box I have an additional F=2*1.2 = 2.4 Newtons. Therefore a total of 8.4 Newtons of force.

That is the answer I found online so I assume its right. Is this the best method for this or is there another way? It seems wrong to me to add the net acceleration to the small box since it is actually in the opposite direction of the way its 6 Newtons is pushing it. I would have though it should be subtracted instead. Or, perhaps subtracting net acceleration from the original 3m/s^2 to give 1.8m/s^2 a for the box.

Or, should I think of the 2.4 Newtons as the force from the large box on the small one and add it as part of the magnitude of the equal and opposite reaction force?
 
8.4 N is correct.

The way to think about this is look at the net unbalance force on the mass.

--- 2F ---> M(3kg), m(2kg) <----- F.

The net unbalanced force is 2F - F or F toward the right.

Now F is acting on the total mass M+m. So a = F/(M+m).


Now the small mass resists the acceleration with a force = ma. So the small block imposes a force on the larger block at their interface (surfaces) of f = (2 kg)(1.2 m/s2). There is also the force F pushing against the smaller block into the larger block, so the total force is f + F or (2 kg)(1.2 m/s2) + 6 N = 8.4 N.
 

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