Magnitude of the electric force a hydrogen nucleus exerts on electron?

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The problem involves calculating the magnitude of the electric force that a hydrogen nucleus exerts on its orbiting electron, as described in the context of the Bohr model of the atom.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for electric force and the values used, including constants and the radius of the electron's orbit. Questions arise regarding the appropriateness of the radius value and the significance of the calculated answer compared to a provided solution.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the order of magnitude and the importance of including units in calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the radius value used in the calculations, with differing opinions on its correctness.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential discrepancies in the radius value used and the implications of significant figures in the calculations. There is also mention of the importance of referencing sources accurately in academic work.

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Homework Statement



What is the magnitude of the electric force a hydrogen nucleus exerts on its only orbiting electron in the Bohr model?

The Attempt at a Solution



Fe = kQq/r^2

Since there is one proton and one electron. Q and q are equal to each other: 1.6 x 10^-19.
k = 9 x 10^9
and radius = 40 x 10^-19.

All the values are given in the question.

The answer is 10^-7 but I got 1.7 x 10^-7.

Why did they completely disregard the 1.7 ?
 
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It's called an "order of magnitude" calculation.
Though it may be a typo - depends: who is "they"?

Note: don't forget the units.
 
Thank you I shall look into that! Sorry they is the people who wrote the solution manual and I will remember to include units next time!
 
No worries - also remember, when you refer to the work of others, to include their names and the title of the work in question. Otherwise the reference is meaningless. ;)

Note: if you use k=9x10^9 SI units, then your answer should be to 1 sig fig too.
 
Isn't the radius supposed to be (5.3 x 10-11)?? How did you get (40 x 10-19)??

I solved the problem the same way you did so (except that i switched the radius) and found that the answer came to be -0.82 x 10-7 C.
 
Bohr radius (order e-11) would be a good choice, yes... you could akso have used e-10 (angstrom = order of magnitude size of an atom) OPs order e-19 meters would be inside the nucleus.

Note. Dont forget units, and justify/critique guessed numbers using a physical reference. Youd probably get away with it is a secondary course but college usually penalises you if you use the correct value without indicating why. IRL if you do this you don't get published/paid.
 

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