Magnitude of total electrostatic force on a third particle ?

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The problem involves calculating the total electrostatic force on a third particle with charge -4 μC, positioned on the x-axis, due to two other particles with charges -8 μC and -6 μC located at specified points on the same axis. The context is rooted in electrostatics and vector addition of forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to consider the directions of the forces acting on the third particle and whether to add or subtract the forces based on their directions. There is an emphasis on understanding vector addition in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the importance of determining the direction of forces and suggested drawing a sketch to visualize the scenario. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly calculate the total force considering the vector nature of the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of having all charges be negative and how that affects the direction of the forces. There is also mention of a potential error in the original calculation regarding the direction of one of the forces.

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Homework Statement



A particle with charge −8 μC is located on the x-axis at the point 8 cm, and a second particle with charge −6 μC is placed on the x-axis at −6 cm.

What is the magnitude of the total electrostatic force on a third particle with charge −4 μC placed on the x-axis at −2 cm?
Answer in units of N

Homework Equations



The Coulomb constant is 9.0× 10^9 N·m2/C2.
Fe = (kq1q2/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



[(9*10^9)(4*10^-6)(8*10^-6)]/(0.1)^2 + [(9*10^9)(4*10^-6)(6*10^-6)]/(0.04)^2

The final answer I get is 163.8 N, which is incorrect.
 
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Check the directions in which the forces act.
 
I don't understand. Does that mean I subtract the two forces?
 
education_24 said:
I don't understand. Does that mean I subtract the two forces?

Forces are vectors. They add as vectors. So after you've determined the magnitudes of the forces you need to determine the directions they're acting, too. "Add" them accordingly. Drawing a sketch of the scenario will help.
 
gneill said:
Forces are vectors. They add as vectors. So after you've determined the magnitudes of the forces you need to determine the directions they're acting, too. "Add" them accordingly. Drawing a sketch of the scenario will help.

That's exactly like I did.
Apparently it was wrong.
Please take a look at my work.
 
Okay, so all of the charges are negative. So between the middle (main) charge and the left charge, it wants to move right. Between the middle and the charge to the right of it, it wants to move left. The magnitude of the electrostatic force of the middle charge and the left charge is 135N. The magnitude of the electrostatic force of the middle charge and the right charge is 28.8N. Since the charge wants to go different directions in those situations, shall I subtract the two forces yielding an answer of 106.2N?
 
Correct.
 
education_24 said:
That's exactly like I did.
Apparently it was wrong.
Please take a look at my work.

I did look at your work, and one of the forces is acting in the wrong direction.

Try this. Write the calculation for each force individually and state its magnitude and direction.

EDIT: Never mind, I see you've done essentially that above. Good show :smile:
 
Thanks guys!
 

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