Making Self resonating coils for wireless electricity transfer How to do

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The discussion revolves around the construction of self-resonating coils for wireless electricity transfer, specifically aiming to replicate a project by the MIT team. Participants express confusion about achieving resonance between two coils and seek advice on circuit parameters and coil dimensions for a specific application involving a 60W bulb at a distance of 2 meters with a target efficiency of over 40%.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests making one of the tuned circuits variable to adjust for maximum output.
  • Another participant shares a link to an instructable for a simpler approach to wireless power transmission and mentions resonant coupling.
  • A participant notes the difficulty in winding two identical coils and proposes adjusting the number of turns on one coil to achieve resonance.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of achieving 40% efficiency at a distance of 2 meters, with one participant estimating that only about 1% efficiency might be possible under those conditions.
  • Suggestions include the use of directional control, such as yagi antenna design, to improve efficiency.
  • One participant expresses apprehension about transmitting 60 watts of power through the air.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the feasibility of the project, with some suggesting methods to achieve resonance and efficiency, while others question the practicality of the goals set by the original poster. No consensus is reached regarding the potential for achieving the desired efficiency and distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the assumptions about coil dimensions, circuit parameters, and the efficiency of wireless power transmission at the specified distance. There are unresolved questions about the exact requirements for the coils and the overall system design.

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Making Self resonating coils for wireless electricity transfer ! How to do @@

Dear Friends ,
I would like to make the wireless electricity project as done by MIT team.i am bit confused about how to make the two different coils resonate at the same frequency ??

Please help me...


Thanks in advance//////////
 
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Usually, you make one of the tuned circuits variable and adjust it for maximum output.

Do you have a circuit diagram of what the MIT team were using?
 
Here is an instructable i found for a slightly more simple approach:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Wireless-Power-Transmission-Over-Short-Distances-U/"

Also, this website has some information on resonant coupling:

http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/technology/resonant-coupling.html"
 
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If you have two coils that are supposed to be identical, it is difficult to wind them to be exactly the same because you might miscount the number of turns.

So, you wind one of the coils with slightly too many turns and start removing turns until you get maximum output.

One refinement to this is to have a small capacitor and put it across the coil each time you test it. If the capacitor makes the received signal worse, you can remove another turn. If it makes the signal better, you have already passed the resonance point.
 


thanks for the replies... i need to make a system to glow a 60W bulb with a distance of 2meters and have more than 40 percent efficiency for this project..

can u please specify me what will be the dimension of coils and other circuit parameter... a rough idea if not exact...

thanks a lot...
 


I don't think you could do this.

A solenoid makes a very poor antenna and little of the power in it is radiated.

Of what is radiated, a small portion of this is intercepted by anything placed 2 M away.

I don't have any figures on this, but if I had to guess, I'd say you might get 1 % efficiency if you were lucky.

Tesla coils use such techniques, but at much closer spacing so they are magnetically coupled.

If you had two microwave dishes at that spacing and facing each other, you just might get a lamp to glow at the focal point of the receiving dish.
 


any more help ?
 


mnnittronix said:
thanks for the replies... i need to make a system to glow a 60W bulb with a distance of 2meters and have more than 40 percent efficiency for this project..

can u please specify me what will be the dimension of coils and other circuit parameter... a rough idea if not exact...

thanks a lot...

40% @ 2 meters! yikes! You would deffinately need some kind of directional control over where your em field would be propagated, try maybe looking at yagi antenna design? What you are trying to do is a pretty tall order, sorry I couldn't help more.
 


I'd be scared to have anything remotely close to transmitting 60 watts of power though the air..
 

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