Man-Days and Man-Hours: Understanding Units of Work Measurement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of work measurement using units such as man-days and man-hours, specifically in the context of a problem involving multiple workers with varying work rates. Participants explore different methods of solving the problem and clarify the definitions and implications of these units of measurement.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a solution to the problem using the equation $\frac{1}{3x}+\frac{1}{3x}+\frac{1}{x}=\frac{1}{12}$, concluding that one of the faster men would take 20 days to complete the job alone.
  • Another participant challenges this solution, suggesting that the slower man would take 84 days to complete the job alone, leading to a conclusion that one of the faster men would take 28 days.
  • A third participant questions the calculation of 84 days, seeking clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  • One participant explains that the work done by the two faster men is equivalent to the work of 7 slower men, providing context to the calculations.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the concept of "man-day," noting differing interpretations among participants about its definition and application in work measurement.
  • Another participant provides a straightforward definition of man-day, explaining it as the amount of work one man can complete in one day, and contrasts it with man-hours to illustrate its use in practical scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the correct calculation of the time it would take for one of the faster men to complete the job alone, with multiple proposed solutions and no consensus reached. Additionally, there is confusion about the definition of man-day, indicating a lack of agreement on its interpretation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions underlying their calculations and the definitions of work measurement units, which may affect their conclusions. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding regarding the application of these concepts in problem-solving.

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If 3 m e n do a job in 12 days and two of the me n are three time s as fast as the third,
how long will it take one of the faster men to do the job ?

this is how I solved it

let x = required time for one of the faster men to do the job alone
3x = time taken by third to finish a job alone.

$\frac{1}{3x}+\frac{1}{3x}+\frac{1}{x}=\frac{1}{12}$

x = 20 days

is this correct?
 
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No, that's not correct. The way I see it, if would take the slow man $12\cdot7=84$ days to complete the job alone, so one of the faster men would take $$\frac{84}{3}=28$$ days.

You would find this also by using:

$$\frac{1}{3x}+\frac{2}{x}=\frac{1}{12}$$

$$\frac{7}{3x}=\frac{1}{12}$$

$$\frac{3x}{7}=12$$

$$x=28$$
 
$12\cdot7=84$ where did you get this?
 
The two faster men can do the work of 6 slower men, so having the two faster men and one slow man working is equivalent to 7 slow men working.
 
markFL, I saw a solution to this that uses "man-day" which until now I don't have a complete understanding. can you explain about it?

some say that man-day is the work-rate of a single man in one day
some say that it is the amount of work a single person need to complete a job.
some say it is a work-load. which confuses me all the time I encounter these types of problems.

I'm hoping that you could show me the explanation about it. Thanks!
 
Simply put, a man-day is the amount of work one man can get done in one day.

You may have heard a more commonly used unit of man-hours. For example, it may be reported to have taken 2,000 man-hours to complete the design of the PCM for the latest hypercar. This may mean 1 man working for 2,000 hours or 2,000 men working for 1 hour, or 4 men working an average of 500 hours each, etc.
 

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