Master Taylor Series with Expert Tips | F(E) = E/(KT) + (Ec/E)^1/2

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The discussion revolves around expanding the function f(E) = E/(KT) + (Ec/E)^(1/2) as a Taylor series. Participants are exploring how to determine the coefficients A0, A1, and A2 in the series expansion around a specific point E0.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the first and second derivatives of the function to obtain the coefficients for the Taylor series. There is confusion regarding the implications of A1 being zero due to the function peaking at E0.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on calculating the derivatives and evaluating them at E0. There is acknowledgment of the relationship between the derivatives and the coefficients in the Taylor series, but no consensus on the final values of A0, A1, and A2 has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention hints and notes regarding the behavior of the function at E0, including that A1 = 0 and the derived expression for E0. There is an emphasis on deriving the coefficients from the derivatives evaluated at E0.

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Homework Statement


Expand the function f(E) as a Taylor series.

Homework Equations


f(E)=E/(KT)+(Ec/E)1/2

The Attempt at a Solution


E=Eo
So it says that
F(E)~Ao+A1(E-Eo)+A2(E-Eo)2...
I need to find out what Ao A1 and A2 are, but not sure how to do that. It says as a hint that A1=0 becasue f(E) peaks at Eo

Any help/hints on what to do? This is from aphysics problem need to derive a formula. I checked like pauls calc but no real help
thanks
 
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You say "Taylor series", do you not know what a Taylor series is?

The Taylor series for f(x), about [itex]x_0[/itex] is
[tex]\displaytype \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{f^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}(x- x_0)^n[/tex]
where "[itex]f^{(n)}(x_0)[/itex]" is the nth derivative of f evaluated at [itex]x_0[/itex].

In particular, the first three terms are
[tex]f(x_0)+ f'(x_0)(x- x_0)^2+ \frac{f''(x_0)}{2}(x- x_0)^2[/tex]

Start by finding the first and second derivatives of F with respect to E.
 
o ok i see now was getting confussed what the problem was asking so it would be
F(E)=(E/kt)+(Ec/E)1/2 +0(E-Eo)+0(E-Eo)2

is this right? says as a hint that a1=0 so than a2=0 also
 
If f(E) peaks at E0, then f '(E0) = 0.

That explains why A1 = 0.

Find: f '(E), f ''(E), f '''(E), etc. & evaluate them at E=E0.

To find E0, set f '(E) = 0 & solve for E. That's E0.
 
cool thxs, so i got
f'=1/kt-((Ec)1/2)/2(E)3/2
f"=3(Ec)1/2/4(E)5/2
also in my notes it says that Eo=(1/4 Ec(kT)2)1/3
so i just plug in Eo for E into the f' and f" and that will give me a1 and a2 right?
 
leonne said:
so i just plug in Eo for E into the f' and f" and that will give me a1 and a2 right?
Right.

Of course, that should give you: a1 = 0, b/c f '(E0) = 0 .
 
yeah thanks
 

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