Mastering Tricky Antiderivatives for Exams: Integrals with Helpful Hints

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The discussion revolves around the topic of antiderivatives, specifically focusing on two integrals that the original poster is struggling to solve in preparation for exams. The integrals involve rational functions and square roots, indicating a need for techniques such as integration by parts and partial fraction decomposition.

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  • Participants discuss various strategies for tackling the integrals, including integration by parts and partial fraction decomposition. The original poster shares their attempts and expresses uncertainty about their solutions, while others prompt for clarification on their thought processes and previous attempts.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing hints and suggestions without reaching a definitive conclusion. Some guidance has been offered regarding integration techniques, and the original poster has reported progress on one of the integrals, although they remain uncertain about the correctness of their solution for the first integral.

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I have to prepare for the exams and this is a set of integrals I can't do... some hints pls :

1.[tex]\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2}} \; dx[/tex]

2.[tex]\int \frac{x}{x^{3}+1} \; dx[/tex]

:confused:
Thank you for your time.
 
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Hi and welcome to PF csi86!

You need to show some work before you receive help. What are your thoughts/ideas on these problem? What have you done till now, and where are you stuck?
 
For the second try to solve

[tex]\frac{x}{x^{3}+1} =\frac{A}{x+1} +\frac{Bx+C}{x^{2}-x+1}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
For the first one use integration by parts:

[tex]u = x[/tex][tex]dv = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1+(x+1)^{2}}}\; dx[/tex]
 
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Thank you, I have succesfully solved the second one, I might have done some mistakes :
[tex]-ln|x+1| + \frac{1}{2} ln{(x^{2}-x+1)} + \frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}\arctan{\frac{2x-1}{\sqrt{3}}}[/tex]
 
Just don't forget the integration constant.

Daniel.
 
Indeed , this might hurt in an exam. :redface:

I tried to solve the first one and I end up with :
[tex]\frac{x^{2}}{2 \sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2}} + \frac{1}{2} \int \frac{(x^{2})(2x+2)}{2 \sqrt{(x^{2}+2x+2})^{3}}} \;dx[/tex]

(Using integration by parts)
 
Write it like that

[tex]\int \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2}} \ dx =\frac{1}{2}\int \frac{d(x^{2}+2x+2)}{\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2}} -\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2}}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
I figured it out, thanks for the help Daniel. :)

I end up with :
[tex]\sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2} - \ln{(x+1+ \sqrt{x^{2}+2x+2})}[/tex]

I don't know if that is correct but I honestly hope so :).
 

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