Material properties -- Elastic and Plastic deformation in automobile crashes

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of elastic and plastic deformation in the context of automobile crashes, focusing on how different materials and structures behave during such events.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore definitions of elastic and plastic deformation, discussing how energy is absorbed or dissipated in a crash. They question the strength and design of various components, such as struts and barriers, and their roles in energy transfer and deformation.

Discussion Status

There is an active exchange of ideas, with some participants affirming the correctness of others' answers while suggesting refinements in terminology and understanding. Multiple interpretations of the questions are being explored, particularly regarding the roles of different materials in energy management during crashes.

Contextual Notes

The questions posed are open-ended, allowing for various interpretations and responses. Participants are encouraged to clarify their understanding of the material properties involved in automobile safety features.

shk
Messages
78
Reaction score
8
Homework Statement
The question has been attached and my answer can be seen below.
Would you please check my answer?
Relevant Equations
Elastic and plastic deformation
a)plastic deformation because of permanent deformation
b) the other parts that have been destroyed have stored the energy and this saved the passenger compartment.
C) the alloy crash barrier is stronger than the car body and and saves more of the energy by deforming shape.

I'm not sure about my answers especially about the answer to part c.

I appreciate your help.
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20201213-192133_WhatsApp.jpg
    Screenshot_20201213-192133_WhatsApp.jpg
    52.5 KB · Views: 221
Physics news on Phys.org
Your answers seem to be correct.
Note that C) is asking about the struts supporting the central barrier.
I would replace the reference to strength with one about the different rates of elastic and plastic deformations, which seem to be the goal of the exercise.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: shk
Lnewqban said:
Your answers seem to be correct.
Note that C) is asking about the struts supporting the central barrier.
I would replace the reference to strength with one about the different rates of elastic and plastic deformations, which seem to be the goal of the exercise.
Thanks for the reply. So do you think if I say the barrier is stronger than the body car , is enough for part c ?
 
these are really open ended questions ...
a) the entire car body has undergone elastic deformation. There are undeformed parts which have come to a stop. The deformed parts deform elastically “first.” Parts of the car body have undergone plastic deformation which is detectable by permanent deformation.
b) I would say absorbed or dissipated the energy not stored
c) the struts are stronger and exhibit less plastic deformation because they are designed to prevent the vehicle from crossing lanes. They transfer energy to the ground. the car body is softer because it is designed to prevent energy from being absorbed by the passenger department, by dissipating the energy via permanent deformation
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Lnewqban
caz said:
these are really open ended questions ...
a) the entire car body has undergone elastic deformation. There are undeformed parts which have come to a stop. The deformed parts deform elastically “first.” Parts of the car body have undergone plastic deformation which is detectable by permanent deformation.
b) I would say absorbed or dissipated the energy not stored
c) the struts are stronger and exhibit less plastic deformation because they are designed to prevent the vehicle from crossing lanes. They transfer energy to the ground. the car body is softer because it is designed to prevent energy from being absorbed by the passenger department, by dissipating the energy via permanent deformation
Wow, your explanation really helped.
Thank you very much . I now completely understand this.
Thank you
 
caz said:
these are really open ended questions ...
a) the entire car body has undergone elastic deformation. There are undeformed parts which have come to a stop. The deformed parts deform elastically “first.” Parts of the car body have undergone plastic deformation which is detectable by permanent deformation.
b) I would say absorbed or dissipated the energy not stored
c) the struts are stronger and exhibit less plastic deformation because they are designed to prevent the vehicle from crossing lanes. They transfer energy to the ground. the car body is softer because it is designed to prevent energy from being absorbed by the passenger department, by dissipating the energy via permanent deformation
Just one quibble.. the barrier struts are stiffer (not just stronger) yet still, preferably, inelastic to avoid bouncing the car into other lanes.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: shk
thank you very much . Yes you are right, I should use the word stiffer and inelastic for the struts. your message was very helpful . thank you
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
11K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
7K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K