Matrix Elements of x^3 Perturbation Theory

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The discussion revolves around a problem from Landau and Lifgarbagez regarding the energy levels of an anharmonic linear oscillator, specifically focusing on the Hamiltonian that includes cubic and quartic terms. The original poster attempts to find the matrix elements of x^3 and x^4 using perturbation theory but encounters discrepancies with the expected results.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of matrix elements, with the original poster detailing their approach and the specific terms they have derived. Some participants question the completeness of the original poster's calculations, suggesting that certain terms may have been overlooked. Others propose alternative methods, such as using annihilation and creation operators, to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to the original poster's attempts. There is a recognition of the need to consider additional terms in the calculations, and some guidance has been offered regarding alternative approaches to the problem.

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There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the use of matrix methods versus operator methods, indicating a potential area of misunderstanding in the application of perturbation theory. Additionally, the problem constraints and the specific equations referenced suggest a structured approach to the calculations, though some assumptions may still be under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


I'm working on problem 3 on page 136 in Landau and Lifgarbagez Quantum mechanics nonrelativistic theory.
The problem is to determine the energy levels of an anharmonic linear oscillator with
H=H0 + a*x3 + b*x4

(where H0 is the hamiltonian of the harmonic oscillator).
To solve this using pertubation theory, I need to find the matrix elements of x3 and x4. I have tried many times, but I don't get the same answer as Landau.

Homework Equations


Equation (23.4) gives the matrix elements of x: xn,n-1=xn-1,n=sqrt(nh/2mw).
I have no problem getting the pre-factors right, so I simplify this expression by not writing explicitely the the constant term and the square root, so I get

xn,n-1=xn-1,n = n

I use the standard rule for matrix multiplication:
(AB)n,m = SUMr(An,r Br,m)


The Attempt at a Solution


I get the following non-zero elements of x2 using the above formulas
x2n,n=xm,m-1 xn-1,n +xn,n+1xn+1,n = n2+ (n+1)2

x2n,n-2 = x2n-2,n = xn,n-1 xn-1,n-2 = n(n-1)

This gives next
x3n,n-1=xn,n-1x2n-1,n-1 + xn,n+1x2n+1,n-1 = 3n3+2n

I can't find any flaw in this, yet in Landau the solution is given as 9n3
 
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You missed one of the non-zero terms of x2, namely x2n,n+2.
 
isn't that one essentially the same as x2n-2,n if I rename n --> n +2? (giving x2n,n+2 = (n+1)(n+2) )
 
You never said what x2n-2,n was in your OP.

Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you're using matrices rather than calculating these results using the annihilation and creation operators?
 
actually I did, I wrote it's equal to x2n,n-2 :)

No good reason, I just didn't think about using creation and annihilation operators. I talked to some others today who also suggested doing that, so I'm going to try doing it that way later today.
But still, it would be nice to be able to solve it this way.
 
henrik729 said:
actually I did, I wrote it's equal to x2n,n-2 :)
Oops, I can't believe I repeatedly missed that!
 
For the matrix element (x^3)_(n-1,n), you have to consider the following 3 possible "transitions":

1) (n-1) -> n -> (n+1) -> n
2) (n-1) -> (n-2) -> (n-1) -> n
3) (n-1) -> n -> (n-1) -> n

The contribution to (x^3)_(n-1,n) are as follows (all of the following are multiplied by
[hbar/(2 m w)]^(3/2) ):
From 1), you get a contribution of Sqrt(n) (n+1),
From 2), you get a contribution of Sqrt(n) (n-1),
From 3), you get a contribution of Sqrt(n) (n).

If you add them, you get Sqrt(n)(3n) = Sqrt(9 n^3).
So (x^3)_(n-1,n) = [hbar/(2 m w)]^(3/2) Sqrt(9 n^3)
= [hbar/(m w)]^(3/2) Sqrt[(9 n^3)/8] just like Landau and Lifgarbagez calculated in problem 3.
 
Note that the way I have written the "transitions" above is translated in terms of the matrix elements x_(m,n) as follows (taking the example of 1) ):

1) (n-1) -> n -> (n+1) -> n is x_(n-1,n) x_(n,n+1) x_(n+1,n)

and the same for the other two.

And for the last part of the problem, if you are going to calculate the 2nd approximation to E_n from the x^3 term using Eq (38.10):
In addition to (i) (x^3)_(n-3,n) and (ii) (x^3)_(n-1,n), you will also need to calculate the matrix elements (iii) (x^3)_(n+3,n) and (iv) (x^3)_(n+1,n). Then you add the abs squared value (i.e. |V_(m,n)|^2 / (E0_n - E0_m) in 38.10) of (i)-(iv). Also take note that the denominator (i.e. (E0_n - E0_m) in 38.10) is negative for terms (iii) and (iv) and positive for terms (i) and (ii).
 

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