Max Bending Moment: Calculation & Formula

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of the maximum bending moment in a beam, specifically questioning how a value of 0.29 MNm was derived. Participants explore relevant formulas and concepts related to beam mechanics, including the use of beam tables and the relationship between beam dimensions and bending stress.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Participants inquire about the formula used to calculate the maximum bending moment of 0.29 MNm.
  • One participant suggests that beam tables provide a way to look up maximum bending moments without performing calculations from scratch.
  • There is a correction regarding the total weight of the wall above the beam, with a participant stating it should be 0.145 MN instead of 0.145 kN.
  • Questions arise about the appropriate formula for calculating the moment for a rectangular cross-section, with one participant questioning why it should be a(b^2) / 8 instead of a(b^3) / 12.
  • Another participant mentions the dimensions of the beam's cross-section, proposing that the beam is twice as deep as it is wide and provides the formula for bending stress, σ = M ⋅ y / I.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the correct formulas for calculating the moment and the dimensions of the beam's cross-section. There is no consensus on the appropriate approach to take.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the shape and dimensions of the beam, as well as the conditions under which the maximum bending stress is limited to 7.5 MPa. Specific mathematical steps and definitions are not fully resolved.

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Homework Statement


how the author found the maximum moment = 0.29MNm ? is there any formula ? how to find it in this question ?
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foo9008 said:

Homework Statement


how the author found the maximum moment = 0.29MNm ? is there any formula ? how to find it in this question ?
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The Attempt at a Solution

Of course there's a formula. That's what beam tables are for - too look up things like the maximum B.M. without having to work them out from scratch all the time.

Here is a set of typical beam tables:

http://www.awc.org/pdf/codes-standards/publications/design-aids/AWC-DA6-BeamFormulas-0710.pdf

Your beam is Figure 1, page 4.

BTW, the calculation of the total weight of the wall above has a small error. W = 0.145 MN, rather than 0.145 kN.
 
SteamKing said:
Of course there's a formula. That's what beam tables are for - too look up things like the maximum B.M. without having to work them out from scratch all the time.

Here is a set of typical beam tables:

http://www.awc.org/pdf/codes-standards/publications/design-aids/AWC-DA6-BeamFormulas-0710.pdf

Your beam is Figure 1, page 4.

BTW, the calculation of the total weight of the wall above has a small error. W = 0.145 MN, rather than 0.145 kN.
the shape is rectangular cross section , am i right ? why the moment shouldnt' be a(b^3) / 12 ? but , a(b^2) / 8 ?
 
foo9008 said:
the shape is rectangular cross section , am i right ? why the moment shouldnt' be a(b^3) / 12 ? but , a(b^2) / 8 ?
The problem is trying to figure out the dimensions of the cross section of the beam so that max. bending stress is limited to 7.5 MPa.

Remember, in bending, σ = M ⋅ y / I

It is postulated that the beam supporting the brick wall is twice as deep as it is wide, or w = b and d = 2 ⋅ b, and I = w ⋅ d3 / 12 and y = d/2
 

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