Transfer Function of a FET Differential Amplifier

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the transfer function of a FET differential amplifier, specifically addressing the behavior of the circuit in response to small signal changes. Participants explore the implications of an ideal current source in the circuit and its effects on output voltages.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the circuit qualifies as a differential amplifier due to the presence of only one input and discusses the relationship between currents and output voltage.
  • Another participant points out that since I1 is an ideal current source, it should remain constant regardless of changes in Vin and Vout1, challenging the initial reasoning.
  • A later reply acknowledges the previous point and shifts focus to a standard common-source (CS) stage, asking how such circuits operate under similar conditions.
  • Another participant suggests that while I1 does not change, Vout can still vary as a function of Vin, indicating that output changes are possible despite the constancy of the current source.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the ideal current source and its impact on the circuit's output. There is no consensus on the implications of these characteristics for the transfer function of the amplifier.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the implications of the ideal current source on the circuit's operation, and there are unresolved questions regarding the relationship between input and output voltages.

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Homework Statement


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[Taken from Razavi's Design of Analog CMOS Integrated Circuits 2nd edition]

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The Attempt at a Solution


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I'm not too sure what to do with this question. Here's what I think of the circuit

This doesn't look like a differential amplifier to me since there's only 1 input. From what, I see, M1 has a constant DC bias current through it of I1. I see the following relationship
$$I_2=I_{SS}-I_1$$
Leading to,
$$V_{out2}=V_{DD}-(I_{SS}-I_1)R_1$$

Note that I2 is the current through R1 and M2

As Vin small signal changes, this I1 is perturbed, which in turn perturbs I_2 which in turns adjusts voltage drop across R1 which leads to Vout2 having a small-signal change. Now, I'm not sure how to get Vout1/Vin or Vout2/Vin. I was thinking of maybe adjusting the equation up there and sub in the Id equation for I1 but that would leave me with a quadratic and squared Vin term.

Also if there's any experienced analog people out there. Is my thought process correct for understanding the circuit or along the right lines?
 

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CoolDude420 said:
As Vin small signal changes, this I1 is perturbed, which in turn perturbs I_2 ...

But you are given that I1 is an ideal current source. That means it is a constant current regardless of Vin and Vout1, so changes in Vin cannot "perturb" I1.
 
phyzguy said:
But you are given that I1 is an ideal current source. That means it is a constant current regardless of Vin and Vout1, so changes in Vin cannot "perturb" I1.

Hmm good point. In that case then, I have another question. What about like a standard CS source stage with a current source like this
COMMON-SOURCE+STAGE+with+current-source+load.jpg


How do these circuits operate then?
 

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If M1 between D and S appears as a variable resistance controlled by VGS then the voltage across that varying resistance, VDS, can vary even while ID is held fixed.
 
CoolDude420 said:
Hmm good point. In that case then, I have another question. What about like a standard CS source stage with a current source like this()
How do these circuits operate then?

I1 doesn't change, but Vout does change as a function of Vin.

In your original circuit, I didn't say Vout1 doesn't change. It does change as you change Vin.
 

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