Max/Min of |z| and Arg(z) given |z-1+i| <= 1

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The problem involves finding the maximum and minimum values of the modulus and argument of a complex number \( z \) given the constraint \( |z-1+i| \le 1 \). This constraint describes a circle in the complex plane centered at (1, -1) with a radius of 1.

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  • Participants discuss the geometric interpretation of the problem, particularly the representation of the circle and its relation to the origin. Questions arise regarding the calculation of distances and the determination of extreme values for both the modulus and argument of \( z \).

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The discussion is progressing with participants offering insights into the geometric aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the distances from the origin to the center of the circle and the implications for maximum and minimum values. There is an ongoing exploration of the argument values, with some participants questioning the initial conclusions drawn from graphical interpretations.

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Participants reference the definition of the argument of a complex number within the range of \(-\pi\) to \(\pi\), which influences their calculations and interpretations.

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Given that [tex]|z-1+i| \le 1[/tex], find the maximum and minimum value of |z| and Arg(z).

I realize that the equation given defines the interior of a circle of radius 1 centered at (1,-1), which includes the circumference.

For the first part of the question, i am able to represent the equation graphically. From what i understand, |z| is the distance from the origin to any point lying on or within the circle. If this is the case, i can see the minimum and maximum points, but I am not too sure on how to calculate their locations.

For the next part, finding the extreme values of Arg(z), i just read straight from my graph and said that the minimum is [tex]-\pi/2[/tex] and the maximum is 0. Is that right?

Thanks in advance,
Dan.
 
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from description, it appears that this is your task:
given the set of points defined by [tex]\{z:|z-1+i|\leq 1\}[/tex] find the complex numbers z such that the vector going from origin to z has max/min length. likewise for angle (so -p1/2 and 0 seem wrong). but then again you said you read straight from your graph, how does your graph look like, or how you derived it? (to help with pin-pointing potential mistakes)EDIT: sorry my mistake
 
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I simply drew a circle centered at (1,-1) with radius 1. Both the x and y-axis are tangental to the circle. That pretty much explains what I've drawn.

My book says the argument of a complex number should be defined within -pi to pi, which is how i got 0 and -pi/2, since the circle touches the positive x-axis and the negative y axis.
 
Ok, seems like your picture is fine. For |z|, how far is the center of the circle from the origin? Now how far are the closest and farthest points from the center of the circle?
 
Ah ok that's a good way to think about it. The distance from the origin to (1,-1) is [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex], plus another 1 unit (the circles radius) gives a maximum distance of [tex]\sqrt{2}+1[/tex]. The minimum distance will just then be [tex]\sqrt{2}-1[/tex]. Am i right?
 
Absolutely.
 
Alright thanks for the help :smile: What about the argument of z? Was i right with that?
 
Yes, you were.
 
Alright, thanks a lot :smile:
 

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