Max power in in sinusoidal circuits

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The discussion revolves around the concept of maximum power transfer in sinusoidal circuits, specifically addressing the relationship between load impedance and Thevenin resistance. Participants explore the implications of resistive and reactive components on average power delivery in AC circuits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that only the resistive part contributes to average power in a sinusoidal circuit, questioning the necessity of conjugate matching of load impedance with Thevenin resistance.
  • Another participant suggests that without conjugate matching, part of the power does not enter the network, resulting in lower dissipation in the resistance than possible.
  • A third participant elaborates on the relationship between average power and impedance, noting that while the average power can be expressed in terms of current, it is ultimately influenced by the fixed input voltage, leading to the conclusion that minimizing total reactance maximizes average power.
  • This participant also indicates that the maximum power condition occurs when the load impedance is the conjugate of the source impedance, referencing the maximum power theorem.
  • A link to an external resource is provided for further reading on AC power, suggesting additional context and information on the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the role of reactance in power transfer, with some emphasizing the importance of conjugate matching while others question its necessity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these differing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of power transfer in sinusoidal circuits, particularly the dependence on definitions of average power and the conditions under which maximum power transfer occurs. Assumptions about fixed input voltage and the nature of impedance are also noted but not fully resolved.

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in a sinusoidal circuit, only the resistive part gives the average power. so why is the load impedance the conjugate of thevenin resistance, consisting of both the resistive part and inductive part, required for maximum average power?
 
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Part of the power never enters the network if the impedances are not conjugate matched, so the dissipation in the resistance is lower than it could be.
 
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hi dexterbla! :smile:
dexterbla said:
in a sinusoidal circuit, only the resistive part gives the average power.

he he … it depends how you write it! :biggrin:

as a function of current, yes …

Pav = (Ir.m.s.)2Re(Zload). :smile:

but as a function of voltage, it's …

Pav = (Ir.m.s.)2Re(Zload)

= (Vsource,r.m.s./|Ztotal|)2Re(Zload) :frown:

so if the input current is fixed, yes the reactance has no effect on the maximum power o:); unfortunately, however, life isn't that simple :rolleyes:, and it's always the input voltage that's fixed :redface:,

and then the average power in the load is maximised (for a given Re(Zload)) by minimising |Ztotal| (= |Zsource + Zload|), ie by reducing the total reactance to zero. :smile:

(ie by making Im(Zload) = -Im(Zsource), and since you can prove that power in the load in a purely resistive circuit is maximised when load resistance equals source resistance, that means that the impedances must be conjugates … see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_power_theorem#Proof" for details :wink:)
 
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