Maximizing z=xy^2-5 on a Bounded Region in the xy-Plane

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The problem involves finding the global maximum and minimum of the function z=xy^2 - 5 within a bounded region defined by the curves y=x and y=1-x^2 in the xy-plane.

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  • Participants discuss the identification of critical points, with one noting the critical point at (0,0) and questioning whether there are additional critical points along a line. Others suggest examining the boundaries by finding intersections of the curves and substituting boundary conditions into the expression for z.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of critical points and boundaries. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to analyze the boundaries and the implications of critical points in relation to the feasible region.

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Participants are considering the implications of critical points and how they relate to the boundaries of the defined region. There is an emphasis on the need to visualize the feasible region to understand where maxima or minima may occur.

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Homework Statement



Find the global max/min for z=xy^2 - 5 on the region bounded by y=x and y=1-x^2 in the xy-plane.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I found the critical point of z=xy^2 - 5 at (0,0), but I do not know how to relate this to the boundary.
 
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countzander said:

Homework Statement



Find the global max/min for z=xy^2 - 5 on the region bounded by y=x and y=1-x^2 in the xy-plane.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I found the critical point of z=xy^2 - 5 at (0,0), but I do not know how to relate this to the boundary.

How did you get just (0,0) for a critical point? I think you have a whole line of critical points. Can you show us? And to handle the boundary find the intersection between the two boundary curves. Then substitute the boundary condition into your expression for z and extremize that. That will give you special points to look at along the boundary.
 


countzander said:

Homework Statement



Find the global max/min for z=xy^2 - 5 on the region bounded by y=x and y=1-x^2 in the xy-plane.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I found the critical point of z=xy^2 - 5 at (0,0), but I do not know how to relate this to the boundary.

Why would you look at critical points of z? They have nothing to do with the problem here.

Let me expand: you have a "feasible region" F consisting of points inside or on the boundary of some figure. First: what is that figure? (Yes, I mean draw a picture.) If an optimum happens to lie INSIDE the figure, then, indeed, it must be a critical point. However, if an optimum (x,y) lies on the boundary of the figure, then there is no reason at all to suppose that it is a critical point.

Your case is trickier than some, because you may have a solution on both parts of the boundary, or on only one part; that is, you may have y = x or y = 1-x^2 or both.

RGV
 


Dick said:
How did you get just (0,0) for a critical point? I think you have a whole line of critical points. Can you show us? And to handle the boundary find the intersection between the two boundary curves. Then substitute the boundary condition into your expression for z and extremize that. That will give you special points to look at along the boundary.

dz/dx= y^2
dz/dy= 2xy

Then I set each one equal to zero and solved the system. (0,0) was the solution and so the critical point. (Critical points exist where the gradient is equal to zero.)

Will the intersection of the boundary be something like x=((sqrt5)-1)/2 or -((sqrt5)+1)/2?
 


countzander said:
dz/dx= y^2
dz/dy= 2xy

Then I set each one equal to zero and solved the system. (0,0) was the solution and so the critical point. (Critical points exist where the gradient is equal to zero.)

Will the intersection of the boundary be something like x=((sqrt5)-1)/2 or -((sqrt5)+1)/2?

Yes, I think you've got the boundary correct. But (x,0) is also a critical point for any value of x, isn't it?
 


Dick said:
Yes, I think you've got the boundary correct. But (x,0) is also a critical point for any value of x, isn't it?

Yes.

After plugging x into the expression for z, would I just set y=0 and solve for z?
 


countzander said:
Yes.

After plugging x into the expression for z, would I just set y=0 and solve for z?

Sure. That should be pretty easy, right? It's z=(-5) all along the critical line, yes? Now work on the boundaries.
 

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