Volume of Double Integral: Finding the Region with Graphed Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a region defined by the equations z=x^2+xy, y=3x-x^2, and y=x. Participants are exploring how to set up a double integral based on the graphed constraints.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion about which region to use for calculating the volume, questioning whether to consider the upper or lower region defined by the graphed equations. There is also discussion about the implications of the three equations as constraints and the feasibility of visualizing the problem in three dimensions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the regions defined by the equations. Some suggest that the upper region may be the appropriate choice, while others highlight the complexity of the regions formed by the curves and the potential for infinite areas leading to infinite volumes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not explicitly mention the boundary portion of y=0 and discuss the implications of having multiple regions in the (x,y)-space, some of which may lead to infinite volumes.

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Homework Statement


z=x^2+xy ,y=3x-x^2,y=x find the volume of the region

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The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed y=3x-x^2 and y=x I am confused on which region I use to find the volume. Do I use the upper region or the lower region.
 

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stolencookie said:

Homework Statement


z=x^2+xy ,y=3x-x^2,y=x find the volume of the region

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed y=3x-x^2 and y=x I am confused on which region I use to find the volume. Do I use the upper region or the lower region.
Doesn't the question give 3 equations as constraints for the volume enclosed? Can you do a 3-D graph of all 3 equations?
 
berkeman said:
Doesn't the question give 3 equations as constraints for the volume enclosed? Can you do a 3-D graph of all 3 equations?
Can't do a 3D graph the two constraints are y=x and y=3x-x^2 , I use the z=x^2+xy to find the volume using the double integrals just having trouble with the set up.
 
stolencookie said:

Homework Statement


z=x^2+xy ,y=3x-x^2,y=x find the volume of the region

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed y=3x-x^2 and y=x I am confused on which region I use to find the volume. Do I use the upper region or the lower region.
I would assume you want the upper region. The lower region has a boundary portion of ##y=0## which is not mentioned in the problem.
 
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stolencookie said:

Homework Statement


z=x^2+xy ,y=3x-x^2,y=x find the volume of the region

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I graphed y=3x-x^2 and y=x I am confused on which region I use to find the volume. Do I use the upper region or the lower region.

In your (x,y)-space there are four regions between the blue and red curves: (i) the south-west region, in which x and y can both go to -∞; (ii) the southern region, in which x can go to ±∞ but y can just go to -∞; (iii) the north-west region, in which x and y can go to +∞; and (iv) the north region, in which x and y are both bounded. Regions (i)--(iii) have infinite areas, which will lead to infinite volumes when we add a third dimension; only region (iv) gives a finite answer.
 

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