Maximum angle of inclined plane before falling off the plane

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum angle of an inclined plane before an object falls off. It highlights the relationship between the angle, the coefficient of static friction, and the forces acting on the object. The key formula presented is tan(α) = μ, where α is the angle and μ is the coefficient of static friction, indicating the angle at which sliding begins. Additionally, the concept of toppling is introduced, emphasizing that if the center of mass extends beyond the base, the object will topple. The conversation aims to clarify the conditions under which an object will either slide or fall off the incline.
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I've been thinking about this for a model I'm devising. Assuming that you have an object of mass m, height h, coefficient of friction u, how large can you make the angle between the ground and the inclined plane. Otherwise, at what angle does the torque from the center of mass of the object overcome the force that is keeping the object on the inclined plane?
 
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If the incline is completely flat and the coefficient of friction is for static friction, then you can find the largest angle for which the mass won't slide by noting that the maximum force along the slide is usually modeled simply as the normal force times the coefficient, and you can equate that with the force from gravity down the incline, that is,

\mu F_n = \mu mg \cos(\alpha) = F_g = mg \sin(\alpha) \ \Rightarrow \ \tan(\alpha) = \mu

where \alpha is the angle and \mu the coefficient of static friction.
 
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Hi Sinnaro! Welcome to PF! :wink:

I'm not sure whether you're talking about sliding (which as Filip Larsen :smile: says depends on whether the tangent exceeds the coefficient of static friction), or toppling.

If it's toppling, then all that matters is whether a vertical line through the centre of mass goes outside the base. :wink:
 
To clarify: it is assumed that the mass is sliding down the plane. I'm looking for the angle (as the angle approaches 90 degrees) for which the mass will no longer be in contact with the plane (falls off).

Picture of what I'm talking about. Assume that the mass looks similar to my drawing (tall vertical height with wide base):

http://i.imgur.com/kIwSt.png
 
For simple comparison, I think the same thought process can be followed as a block slides down a hill, - for block down hill, simple starting PE of mgh to final max KE 0.5mv^2 - comparing PE1 to max KE2 would result in finding the work friction did through the process. efficiency is just 100*KE2/PE1. If a mousetrap car travels along a flat surface, a starting PE of 0.5 k th^2 can be measured and maximum velocity of the car can also be measured. If energy efficiency is defined by...

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