Maximum electric force felt by the raindrop

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The problem involves calculating the maximum electric force experienced by a charged raindrop (charge Q) positioned on the y-axis due to two other charged raindrops (charge q) located symmetrically on the x-axis. The participants are exploring the implications of Coulomb's Law and the geometry of the setup.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the symmetry of the problem and the cancellation of forces in the x-direction. They explore the relationship between the distance from the charges and the force experienced, questioning how to determine the position on the y-axis that maximizes the force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the constraints of the problem and suggesting that the next step involves finding the maximum of the derived force equation. There is recognition that the position of the charges on the x-axis cannot be altered, and the focus is on varying the position of the charge Q.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the maximum force cannot occur at the origin or at extreme distances, indicating that the solution lies somewhere in between. There is a consideration of whether additional equations, such as F=qE, should be incorporated into the analysis.

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Suppose 2 drops with equal charge q are on the x-axis at x=+-a. Find the maximum electric force felt by a third drop with charge Q at an arbitrary point on the y axis.

from the symmetry we can deduce that the x components cancel and the net force is in the y direction. the y component is same for both charges.

I used Coulomb's Law to get the equation

F=2((kqQ)/a2+y2)(y/sqrt(a2+y2) j(hat)

=(2kqQy)/(a2+y2)3/2 j(hat)

I know that the next step is to find the y value for which the force is maximized, however I'm not too sure on how to do that. I thought maybe the y is max when the charges a are at the origin, but I don't think that the charges could be moved over to the origin for this calculation.

any suggestions?
 
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You're right. You can't move the charges on the x-axis; or mathematically speaking, a is a constant. What you can do is move the third charge, that is, vary y, to maximize |F(y)|.
 
hmm...

so since the length from the q charge to the Q charge is inversely proportional to the force felt by Q (1/y), the closer Q is to both q's, the more force it experiences. But if it was the lined up with them on the x axis, the net force would be 0. So, do I need to make it as close to the origin as possible? And would other equations, such as F=qE need to be incorporated to solve for y?

thanks for helping me
 
As close to the origin as possible would be at the origin, where, you have already noted, the force is 0. If Q is very far away, again the force is essentially 0. So the maxima occur somewhere in between.

You already have the expression for the force. Just find where it's attains a maximum. This is a math problem now.
 

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