Maximum Force Supported by Allowable Shear

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving a pin-connected structure subjected to a concentrated load. Participants are analyzing the maximum load that can be supported by the structure, considering factors such as shear strength, yield strength, and safety factors. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to structural mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related, Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem and equations needed to determine the maximum load P, mentioning specific parameters like cross-sectional area and yield strength.
  • Another participant questions the interpretation of the diagram, suggesting that the pin at B may not be in double shear, which could affect calculations.
  • A later reply clarifies that the pin at C is indeed in double shear and emphasizes the need to find the shear force at C and the tensile force in bar AB to determine which will control the design.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of member lengths and structure dimensions for solving the problem accurately.
  • There is a mention of equilibrium equations to determine forces acting on the structure, specifically Cx, Cy, and the axial force in AB.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the shear conditions at pin B, with some asserting it is not in double shear while others focus on the conditions at pin C. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interpretations on the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided all necessary dimensions or member lengths, which are crucial for solving the problem. There are also unresolved mathematical steps related to the equilibrium equations and their application to the forces in the structure.

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Homework Statement


The simple pin-connected structure carries a concentrated load P as shown. The rigid bar supported by structure AB and by pin at C. The steel strut Ab has a cross sectional area of .25in2 and a yield strength of 60ksi. The diameter of the steel pin at C is 0.375in and the ultimate shear strength is 54ksi. If a factor of safety of 2.0 is required in both the strut and the pin at C. determine the maximum load P that can be supported by the structure.http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/21/photowb.jpg

Homework Equations


\SigmaFx=0
\SigmaFy=0
\sigmaallow=\sigmafailure/(Safety Factor)
\tauallow=\taufailure/(Safety factor)
Safety Factor=\sigmafailure/(\sigmaactual)
Safety Factor=\taufailure/(\tauactual
Safety Factor=Pfailure/(Pactual)
Safety Factor=\nufailure/(\nuactual)

The Attempt at a Solution


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5855/scan1dl.jpg I know the max allowable P at each point, but what I'm having trouble finding is the max P, based on those max loads at the points. How do I finish solving this?
 
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Unless you have not clearly drawn the diagram , it appears that the pin at B is not in double shear, so you may have divided by 2 once too often. What are the member lengths and structure dimensions? They are necessary to solve the problem. Which part of the structure controls the design? How would you then go about solving for the force in the pin at B?
 
PhanthomJay said:
Unless you have not clearly drawn the diagram , it appears that the pin at B is not in double shear, so you may have divided by 2 once too often. What are the member lengths and structure dimensions? They are necessary to solve the problem. Which part of the structure controls the design? How would you then go about solving for the force in the pin at B?

Oops, forgot to upload the picture so you can check my work.

Picture uploaded for reference.

The pin in question is pin C. I don't need to know in B do I? As it doesn't ask for pin B, it ask for the bar AB. So I have solved for the shear in pin C, but the stress/strain in bar AB.
 
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Oh sorry, I misread the question. Yes, the pin at C is in double shear. So you need to find the shear force acting at C (in terms of P), and the tensile force in AB (in terms of P), to see which controls based on the allowable values. You first must use your equilibrium equations to determine Cx, Cy, and the axial force in AB.
 

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