Maxwell Boltzmann Distribution Question

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The discussion revolves around the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution for a two-dimensional gas, specifically focusing on determining the constant C in the probability function P(v) such that the integral of P(v) over all velocities equals N. Participants are exploring the integration of the probability function and the implications of the limits involved in the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss integrating the probability function P(v) and express uncertainty about evaluating the integral, particularly at the upper limit of infinity. There is a back-and-forth about whether to rearrange the equation to isolate C before or after evaluating the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to approach the evaluation of the integral, suggesting that the integral can be evaluated by taking limits. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these evaluations and how they relate to solving for C.

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Participants express uncertainty about evaluating integrals with infinite limits and the implications of the results on the determination of C. There is mention of using external tools for assistance in evaluating limits, indicating a reliance on additional resources to navigate the problem.

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Hello everyone

Homework Statement


The equivalent of the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution for a two-dimensional
gas is
P(v) = Cv e^-\frac {mv^2}{kt}

Determine C so that

\int_0^\infty P(v)dv = N

Homework Equations


Not really sure

The Attempt at a Solution


I wasn't really sure how to tackle this question so I figured i'd integrate P(v) since the question says that'll equal N.

\int_0^\infty P(v)dv
\int_0^\infty Cv e^-\frac {mv^2}{kt} dv
C\int_0^\infty v e^-\frac {mv^2}{kt} dv

u = \frac {mv^2}{kt}

\frac {du}{dv} = \frac {2mv}{kt}

dv = \frac {du kt}{2mv}

C\int_0^\infty v e^{-u} \frac {du kt}{2mv}

C\int_0^\infty e^{-u} \frac {du kt}{2m}

\frac {Ckt}{2m} \int_0^\infty e^{-u} du

= \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-u}\bigg]_0^\infty

= \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kt}}\bigg]_0^\infty

I'm not really sure where to go from here. How would I evaluate this between infinity and zero?

Thanks
 
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HINT: You said the entire integral has to equal N, correct? Well, your last line is equal to the integral. So if A = B and B=C ... ?
 
ok, so you're saying

N = \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kt}}\bigg]_0^\infty

which yeah, makes sense. But do you want me to rearrange it to make C the subject while not evaluating the integral?
 
Crosshash said:
ok, so you're saying

N = \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kt}}\bigg]_0^\infty

which yeah, makes sense. But do you want me to rearrange it to make C the subject while not evaluating the integral?

No. Evaluate the integral and then solve for C. That should be your answer.
 
G01 said:
No. Evaluate the integral and then solve for C. That should be your answer.

I thought so. This might seem stupid, but I really don't know how to evaluate the integral when one of the limits is \infty. Could you shed some light on that please?
 
Crosshash said:
I thought so. This might seem stupid, but I really don't know how to evaluate the integral when one of the limits is \infty. Could you shed some light on that please?

To evaluate your integral, evaluate the following instead:

N = \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kt}}\bigg]_0^t

Now take that whole resulting expression and take the limit as t\rightarrow\infty.

Now can you solve for C?
 
G01 said:
To evaluate your integral, evaluate the following instead:

N = \frac {Ckt}{2m} \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kt}}\bigg]_0^t

Now take that whole resulting expression and take the limit as t\rightarrow\infty.

Now can you solve for C?

Ok, so \bigg[{-e^{-\frac {mv^2}{kT}}\bigg]_0^t

will give me

\lim_{t \to \infty}({-e^{-\frac {mt^2}{kT}} + 1)

yeah?

Sorry if this is annoying, I've never actually done something like this which seems a bit strange considering a question requires it. I appreciate the help.
 
I used a site that provides a nice integral and limit calculator:
http://www.numberempire.com/limitcalculator.php
From that, I get:

\[\lim_{v\to0}\left(-{{k\,T\,e^ {- {{m\,v^2}\over{k\,T}} }}\over{2\,m}}\right) = -{{k\,T}\over{2\,m}}\]
So:
\[C \times \left[ \frac{kTe^{\frac{-mv^2}{kT}}}{2m}\right]^{\infty}_0=C\times \frac{kT}{2m}\]

Have I missed something obvious?
 
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