Measure current from an alternator

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This discussion focuses on measuring the current generated by alternators, specifically a 3-phase car alternator. It is established that car alternators produce 3-phase AC, which is converted to DC via internal diodes. To accurately measure the output current, users should connect a load resistor instead of a battery and utilize the Thevenin equivalent circuit to determine output impedance and current capability. Additionally, it is recommended to have a battery connected to the field coils during startup to ensure proper operation.

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Hi, I have few alternators(one is 3phase), and I want to test the current generated for each alternator at a same rpm.

however, what is the proper way of doing this? what is the connection should be?
is there a need to convert them to DC, and charge to the battery while testing?

or any other way?

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just wondering can I take a resistor as load instead of battery?
 

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I'm not sure of the best way, but one way would be to characterize the alternator with its Thevenin equivalent circuit. Measure the open circuit output voltage (RMS), then load it with a moderate load resistance (say a few Ohms to give you a few Amps), and measure the load voltage. This will give you what you need to calculate the output impedance of the alternator, and hence the output current capability at whatever reference voltage you want to call the min (hence the max current).
 
I think most altenators used in cars require it to be connected to a dc source since they don't have permanent magnets, just field windings. Do you know what types you have?
 
just want to know the current produce from alternator is AC or DC ?
 
A car alternator itself produces 3 phase AC but there are diodes inside the alternator case that turn this into DC.
 
if i want the current from this alternator,should i use battery or just connect a menthol directly to alternator?
 
roti_mentega said:
if i want the current from this alternator,should i use battery or just connect a menthol directly to alternator?

I have a car alternator and I measured the field coil resistance at 27 ohms. So, it would draw about 0.5 amps from a 12 volt battery.
Whether you could get this from the alternator output depends on remanent magnetism. This is the magnetism remaining in the iron core of the field coil when there is no current flowing.

If this was enough to get the alternator generating enough voltage to overcome the voltage drops of the diodes, the voltage out would magnetise the field coil a bit more which would give a bit more more output... and so on.

My alternator seems to have quite a lot of remanent magnetism but it is hard to tell if it would be enough to get the alternator producing output on its own.

To be safe, you probably should have a battery on the field coils at least for startup. Then you could charge the battery from the alternator output.
 

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