Measurement of unknown resistance using potentiometer

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The discussion revolves around the measurement of an unknown resistance using a potentiometer circuit. Participants explore the implications of internal resistance in the circuit and question the assumptions made in the standard method of determining the unknown resistance.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how equal current can be assumed for each resistance in the potentiometer setup.
  • Another participant suggests that the voltage source in the circuit has significant internal resistance, which should be considered for a proper analysis.
  • Some participants agree that while internal resistance can be considered arbitrary, it cannot be zero.
  • There is a discussion about whether the currents through the resistors R and X can be equal, given that they have different values.
  • Several participants express confusion over the explanation of the circuit's operation and question the validity of the solution provided in the textbook.
  • Links to previous discussions on similar questions are shared for further reference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the assumptions made in the original solution, particularly concerning the treatment of internal resistance and the equality of currents through different resistors. There is no consensus on the correctness of the solution presented in the textbook.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem lacks information about the internal resistance of the voltage source, leading to uncertainty in the analysis. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the definitions of resistance and current in the context of the circuit.

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Figure shows a potentiometer circuit for comparison of two resistances. The balance point with a standard resistor R = 10.0 Ω is found to be 58.3 cm, while that with the unknown resistance X is 68.5 cm. Determine the value of X.
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In the solution of this problem every book using this method:-
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my question is how can we take equal i for each resistance?
 

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We've seen this arrangement presented before, and for a time it had us purplexed. I believe the conclusion was that the lower-drawn source ε[/size] is actually a voltage source having significant resistance. So mark in some fixed internal resistance there, and re-examine the question.

Does your textbook give an explanation of the circuit and its operation, and mentioning that source having internal resistance? Without the recognition of that internal resistance, the circuit makes no sense.
 
NascentOxygen said:
We've seen this arrangement presented before, and for a time it had us purplexed. I believe the conclusion was that the lower-drawn source ε is actually a voltage source having significant resistance. So mark in some fixed internal resistance there, and re-examine the question.

Does your textbook give an explanation of the circuit and its operation, and mentioning that source having internal resistance? Without the recognition of that internal resistance, the circuit makes no sense.
i copied the whole question from textbook. nothing was told about internal resistance. in general we have to take an arbitrary internal resistance here.
 
Yes, arbitrary, but not zero.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Yes, arbitrary, but not zero.
ok if there is a non-zero internal resistance, then what about the current through resistor R and X? are they equal? why? please answer it. I need it very badly.
 
Anind said:
ok if there is a non-zero internal resistance, then what about the current through resistor R and X? are they equal? why? please answer it. I need it very badly.
R and X are different valued resistances, so when separately connected to source ε[/size] will have different currents.
 
In your first post you provided an "explanation" of how the arrangement works. I don't understand that description.
 
NascentOxygen said:
R and X are different valued resistances, so when separately connected to source ε will have different currents.
So you agree that the solution given above is wrong right?
 

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