Measuring AC current with an oscilloscope.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around measuring AC current through an LED using an oscilloscope, focusing on the instrumentation and methods suitable for low current measurements in the nano to pico-ampere range at high frequencies.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Experimental/applied, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about measuring current through an LED in AC mode and seeks advice on linking it to an oscilloscope.
  • Another participant suggests using a resistor in series with the LED to measure the voltage across it, applying Ohm's law for current calculation.
  • A different participant expresses that while the resistor method is simple, they are looking for a more detailed and reliable solution due to the low current levels and high frequencies involved.
  • One participant questions why the expected currents are so small, prompting a response about working with low voltages and new materials.
  • A suggestion is made to use a classic Op-Amp circuit as a current-to-voltage converter, with potential adjustments for temperature and bias current variations.
  • Another participant recommends checking for current sense amplifiers with programmable gain as a more reliable solution, noting the availability of application notes for further guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for measuring AC current through the LED, with multiple approaches and suggestions presented without resolution of which is superior.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the challenges of measuring very low currents and the need for specialized instrumentation, but does not resolve the specific requirements or limitations of the proposed methods.

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I have a technical question, for research purposes.

I have LED that we probe in AC mode. To measure the applied voltage in AC and the light-response in AC is no problem.

However I would like to measure the current going through the device as well and I would like to link it to an oscilloscope. Now OSC usually measure potential (and have limited range) and I'd like to know how to have a signal directly related to the current on the OSC.

If you know of any particular instrumentation please let me know.
 
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Put a resistor in series with the LED and measure the voltage across it with a scope. That's how I've done it in the past. Ohms law rocks.
 
Yes, that's basically trivial.

I was looking for a more detailed and reliable solution. Currents will be in the range from nano to micro ampere (or even pico-ampere for some other devices) and frequencies above 100 kHz.

I think that, amplifier aside, I need a bit more than that.
 
By AC mode I assume you are using a time dependent driver for the LED. Why are the currents you expect so small?
 
Because I am working at low voltages and new materials.
 
The standard current-to-voltage converter for very low current is the classic Op-Amp circuit:
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Depending on your requirements, the circuit can be tweaked to compensate for temperature and bias current variations. Google "current voltage converter".
 
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FM79 said:
Yes, that's basically trivial.

I was looking for a more detailed and reliable solution. Currents will be in the range from nano to micro ampere (or even pico-ampere for some other devices) and frequencies above 100 kHz.

I think that, amplifier aside, I need a bit more than that.
Check for some 'current sense amplifier' with programmable gain. Pretty reliable stuff, and usually there is a ton of AppNote too.
 
Thank you Svein and Rive.
 

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