Measuring Tensile Strength in an alternative way

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The discussion centers on an alternative method for measuring tensile strength using a fluid-filled cylindrical disc made from material X. The proposed method involves applying pressure to the cylinder until rupture occurs, suggesting that the tensile strength can be calculated as 5 times the maximum fluid pressure. However, experts caution that this approach differs fundamentally from conventional uniaxial loading tests due to factors such as prestressing and boundary conditions. Additionally, the relationship between Young's Modulus and tensile strength is highlighted as an important area for further exploration.

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  • Understanding of tensile strength measurement techniques
  • Familiarity with Young's Modulus and its significance in material science
  • Knowledge of stress types: hoop stress, radial stress, and axial stress
  • Basic principles of fluid mechanics as they relate to pressure applications
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  • Research "stress in thin cylinder" to understand stress distribution in cylindrical materials
  • Investigate the differences between uniaxial loading and multi-directional loading tests
  • Examine Young's Modulus and tensile strength data for various steel types
  • Explore sealing techniques for cylindrical tests and their impact on boundary conditions
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Material scientists, mechanical engineers, and researchers involved in material testing and analysis will benefit from this discussion, particularly those exploring innovative methods for measuring tensile strength.

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So I've been looking at a few material tests and they all start with a rectangular sample of the material, loaded into a machine which extends them by increasing load at a constant rate and measures the strain/stress till the point of material fracture. The yield stress is measured in usually MPa which has the same units of pressure.

So I was wondering if I could measure the tensile strength of a material in an alternative way. Say I have made a cylinder out of the material whose tensile strength is to be measured. I then fill up the cylinder with some fluid and apply pressure to it and measure the YIELD STRENGTH at the point when my disc ruptures. Now I'm aware that compared to the previous uniaxial loading, now I'm loading it in possibly two or three directions. The material at any point is being pushed in negative and positive x directions and also in a positive z direction, maybe even in positive and negative y directions. This means that I might have to include a multiplication factor of 3 or 5 to the fluid pressure in order to obtain the total stress on the material.

This comes purely from my speculation that since dimensions of tensile strength and pressure are the same, they can in principle be thought of as the same, just like work and energy. My second question is how can we link Young's Modulus to tensile strength of a material?

SUMMARY: I make a cylindrical disc out of material X. Fill it with fluid and apply pressure on top of the disc which pushes the curved part of the cylinder outwards till fluid pressure breaks it. The tensile strength can then be determined by doing 5 X Maximum Fluid pressure. This should give the same answer as uniaxial loading. If I'm wrong please correct me. Thank you!
 
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Question 1:
Search engine is your friend, start with search terms: stress in thin cylinder. That will lead to stress in thick cylinders. Note carefully the references to hoop stress, radial stress, and axial stress. Also note the assumptions applicable to each of those three stresses. Note that yield point (search that also) is not the point where it ruptures.

Question 2:
Hint: Look up the Young's Modulus and tensile strength for various steels, ranging from hot rolled low carbon, to heat treated alloy steels.

Question 3:
I do not understand your question, but it sounds completely wrong.

Suggestion: Always consider posting a diagram to clarify your text. It never hurts, and frequently helps.

General observation: Just because units match does not mean that they are measuring the same thing. As an example, Newton-meters can be torque or work (AKA joules).
 
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When you roll the material into a cylinder, you prestress the wall, so that is one place this test differs from the conventional tensile test.

Secondly, there is the matter of sealing the ends of your cylinder. Any feasible sealing technique is going to change the boundary conditions, again modifying the nature of the test.

In short, it will not be an equivalent test.
 
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