Merry-go-round angular momentum conservation?

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The problem involves a playground merry-go-round with a specified radius and moment of inertia, which is initially rotating at a certain speed. A child hops onto the edge of the merry-go-round, prompting a discussion on how this affects the system's moment of inertia and angular speed, with a focus on the conservation of angular momentum.

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  • Participants discuss how to calculate the new moment of inertia when the child steps onto the merry-go-round, questioning the correct application of formulas and units. There is an exploration of angular momentum conservation principles and how they apply to the scenario.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, checking calculations and questioning assumptions about the moment of inertia. Some have provided guidance on proper units and the need for careful arithmetic, while others are exploring different interpretations of the calculations involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding unit consistency and the proper application of the moment of inertia formula for a particle. Participants are also addressing potential arithmetic errors in their calculations.

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A playground merry-go-round of radius R = 1.20 m has a moment of inertia I = 230 kgm2 and is rotating at 10.0 rev/min about a frictionless vertical axle. Facing the axle, a 23.0 kg child hops onto the merry-go-round and manages to sit down on its edge. What is the new angular speed of the merry-go-round?

Little bit of a problem with this one. How does the moment of inertia change when the 23 kg child steps on...Do you need to use angular momentum conservation?
 
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Jacob87411 said:
How does the moment of inertia change when the 23 kg child steps on...
Treat the child as a particle. (What's the moment of inertia of particle at a distance from an axis?) Just add the child's moment of inertia to that of the merry-go-round.

Do you need to use angular momentum conservation?
Yes.
 
So the moment of inertia for a particle is Mi*ri = (23)(1.2)=27.6

So I of the system is (230+27.6)=257.6. So now we take conservation of angular momentum:

L initial = L Final
L Initial = I*angular speed = 230*1.05 (10 rev/min = 20pi/min = 1.05rad/s?)
L Final = 257.6*angular speed, so we set this equal to each other

230*1.05 = 257.6w
w=.9375?
 
Jacob87411 said:
So the moment of inertia for a particle is Mi*ri = (23)(1.2)=27.6
No. Does this expression even have the right units for moment of inertia?
 
whoops, r should be squared right...so (23)(1.2^2) = 33.12

So 230(1.05)=263.12w
w=,874?
 
Right sorry I always forget..it says I am off by a power of 10, why is this
 
Jacob87411 said:
whoops, r should be squared right...so (23)(1.2^2) = 33.12
Right. But be sure to include proper units when stating a physical quantity.

So 230(1.05)=263.12w
w=,874?
Check your arithmetic. Also, why not express the new angular speed in the same units as the original?
 
oh wow whoops so w=.917 so converting back we take (.17 * 60)/2*pi giving 8.75 rev/min. Thanks for the help
 

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