Mesh current equation in matrix form

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The discussion revolves around the formulation of mesh current equations in matrix form, particularly focusing on the impact of a controlled current source within a circuit analysis context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of Cramer’s rule for solving mesh equations and question the treatment of the controlled current source in their equations. There is a discussion about whether the effects of the controlled current source are adequately represented in the mesh equations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing hints and questioning the assumptions made in the setup of the mesh equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the insertion of a controlled voltage source to account for the effects of the controlled current source.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of ignoring certain prefixes in the analysis and a hypothetical scenario where the current source value changes, prompting further exploration of its implications on the mesh equations.

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i3 -?

This is how I tried to solve using cramer's rule (denominator is the determinant of the matrix, while numerator is the determinant of the modified matrix)
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I ignored the prefix Kilo, but the method is right. So I get a different value for i3.

Does anyone know what's wrong?
 
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Your mesh equations do not appear to take into account the effects of the controlled current source in loop 1.
 
gneill said:
Your mesh equations do not appear to take into account the effects of the controlled current source in loop 1.
But it does? You don't need to set up equation for it, because i1 = 0.001Vx
 
vizakenjack said:
But it does? You don't need to set up equation for it, because i1 = 0.001Vx
So where are it's effects on the rest of the circuit? Hypothetically, suppose it was changed to i1 = 0.003Vx. Shouldn't that change be reflected in your mesh equations? Where would the changes appear?

The controlled current source as a mesh current must create a potential difference across the 1 kΩ resistor in loop 3. You can't just ignore that.

Big hint: To address this, insert an appropriate controlled voltage source in series with the 1 kΩ resistor.
 
gneill said:
Big hint: To address this, insert an appropriate controlled voltage source in series with the 1 kΩ resistor.

Why would I insert something just randomly? I don't get these riddles!
 
vizakenjack said:
Why would I insert something just randomly? I don't get these riddles!
It's not random. The controlled voltage source expresses the controlled current source's effect on loop 3. Loop 1's mesh current flows through the 1k resistor of loop 3 and creates a potential drop across it. The inserted voltage source represents that potential drop.
 

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