Meteor detection/prediction: One over Toronto, ON, Canada

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The discussion centers around a recent meteor event that occurred over Toronto, Canada, and the implications of predicting such impacts. Participants explore the detection of meteors, the potential for finding debris, and personal anecdotes related to meteorite collecting.

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  • One participant notes that a fireball was detected and predicted to impact near Niagara Falls, highlighting the growing capability of astronomers to anticipate such events.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the location of potential debris from the meteor, questioning whether it landed in Ontario or New York and whether it struck water or land.
  • Another participant mentions a recent online meteorite sale and the challenges posed by snow cover in the region for collectors seeking to find meteorite fragments.
  • There are personal exchanges regarding meteorite collections, with one participant sharing their recent acquisitions from an online sale.
  • Participants engage in light-hearted conversation about personal matters, such as family and the challenges of parenting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the excitement surrounding the meteor event and the challenges of finding debris, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the debris location or the impact conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact details of the meteor's landing.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the meteor's size and the detection capabilities of observatories are present, but these are not fully explored or clarified. The discussion includes personal anecdotes that may not directly relate to the meteor event.

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A vibrant fireball that flashed across the night sky in the early hours of Saturday morning passed over the skyline of Toronto, Canada, before colliding with Earth near Niagara Falls.
https://news.yahoo.com/videos-captured-fireball-flashing-across-041651291.html
The European Space Agency said the event marked only the sixth time in history the impact of a space object with Earth was successfully predicted. The agency said while most asteroid collisions with Earth are only discovered after the fact from evidence like craters, the number of occasions in which a space rock is detected before it strikes is growing.

In fact, all six detections have taken place since 2008, according to ESA, which said continued improvement in sky scanning telescopes will likely make detection of smaller objects — which frequently strike Earth — more common.

Large asteroids, on the other hand, are much easier to spot.

Saturday's fireball was anticipated by amateur and professional astronomers in the hours before it struck. The Minor Planet Center, which monitors asteroids, said a fast-moving object was detected by the Mount Lemmon Survey near Tucson, Arizona, triggering a "warning of an imminent impact."

@davenn

The MPC said seven observatories were able to spot the object before it entered the Earth's atmosphere at around 3:27 a.m. ET over Brantford, Ontario. The object was less than 1 meter in size, according to the ESA.

Debris might be found around Niagara Falls. I don't know if that is Ontario or NY Side. I wonder if it his the water, or on land.
 
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Astronuc said:
Debris might be found around Niagara Falls. I don't know if that is Ontario or NY Side. I wonder if it his the water, or on land

cheers

Had an online meteorite sale in the weekend and several of my felloe collectors were
pondering at trip to the region. The only thing putting them off was the excessive snow
cover that would make it almost impossible to find anything

update ... well at least one has arrived out there
my friend "Meteorite Man" Steve Arnold

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looking freakin cold !
 
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@davenn
Have you added to your collection lately?
 
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dlgoff said:
@davenn
Have you added to your collection lately?
hey mate

trust you are well. Hope your daughter hasn't been adding too many more grey hairs to you lately hahahah

Yes, another 14 new mets added last weekend at the Zoom online sale run by a friend of mine out of Arizona
There were about 27 of us attending and buying all sorts of meteorites :smile:
 
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davenn said:
Hope your daughter hasn't been adding too many more grey hairs to you lately
Not lately. But am hopeful she'll do well on her single engine commercial check-ride this coming Monday 12-5-22.
 
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