Methods to measure the speed of the light

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around various methods to measure the speed of light, with a focus on historical techniques, particularly those used by Fizeau. Participants express curiosity about the experimental setups and tools used in these measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about different methods to measure the speed of light.
  • Another participant suggests a Wikipedia article as a resource for understanding these methods.
  • Concerns are raised about understanding Fizeau's measurements, specifically regarding the tools used to measure time.
  • Some participants speculate that crystals and electronic devices, possibly piezoelectrics, were involved in the measurement process.
  • There is a mention of Fizeau's use of a spinning wheel with holes, prompting further discussion about the apparatus and its function.
  • One participant expresses frustration about the lack of detailed descriptions of experimental setups in physics literature.
  • A later reply clarifies that Fizeau's apparatus does not require explicit time measurement, as it is derived from the equations used.
  • Another participant questions the mention of piezoelectrics in the context of 1800s experiments, emphasizing the simplicity of Fizeau's apparatus involving mirrors and spinning wheels.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of reviving old threads in the forum, with some participants explaining the forum's norms regarding thread activity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and opinions regarding Fizeau's methods and the tools used. There is no consensus on the specifics of the experimental setup or the appropriateness of resurrecting old threads.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity in experimental setups, indicating that published papers typically provide detailed descriptions for reproducibility, though this is not always reflected in forum discussions.

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Hello,

I would like to know what are the differents methods to measure the speed of the light.

Thanks
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Well I have a problem to understand how Fizeau made his measurements ! What were his tools to measure time ?
 
Probably crystals, counting the number of vibrations.
 
zhermes said:
Probably crystals, counting the number of vibrations.

How he made the counting ?
 
Don't know. Some sort of electronics... maybe piezoelectrics.
 
I don't understand why there is always so few indications on experimental setup in Physic
 
honolulu_boy said:
I don't understand why there is always so few indications on experimental setup in Physic

The experimental set-ups are generally very well described in the published paper(s) that result from the experiment. This is done so that others can reproduce the experiment, if need be.
 
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Geezer said:
Didn't Fizeau use some spinning wheel with holes in it?
Good catch Geezer, my apologies---I was thinking about something entirely different. Fizeau's apparatus doesn't need to measure the time explicitly, it drops out of the equations. My bad.
 
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For God's sake!
Piezoelectrics in 1800's??
Mirrors and spinning wheels and that's all!
 
  • #12
Any reason you felt compelled to mention this after almost 2 years had passed?
 
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well, if you check my registration date you will see that it is roughly a week. Since then, I have been scrolling down all forums to find topics that interest me the most. Therefore, despite the time that has passed since the last post I wanted to comment.
 
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e.chaniotakis said:
well, if you check my registration date you will see that it is roughly a week. Since then, I have been scrolling down all forums to find topics that interest me the most. Therefore, despite the time that has passed since the last post I wanted to comment.

It is generally frowned upon to "resurrect" an old thread. If you have a question about the same topic it is usually better to create a new thread instead, as many of the posters in the original thread may be gone now, and a multi-page thread usually gets far fewer looks than a fresh new one.

PF is not your average forum. We try to maintain high standards in our posts, so bumping an old thread simply because you wanted to comment on it is generally not considered to be a good reason.
 
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I was not aware of this policy! Thank you for mentioning it to me. From now and on it will be done this way.
 
  • #16
e.chaniotakis said:
I was not aware of this policy! Thank you for mentioning it to me. From now and on it will be done this way.

No problem, everyone's got to learn somehow!
 

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