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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the iterated integral $$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \left(\frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}\right)dydx$$. The user initially miscalculated the antiderivative of $$\frac{1}{2x}$$, confusing it with $$\frac{\ln(2x)}{2}$$ instead of the correct form $$\frac{\ln(x)}{2}$$. Clarifications were made regarding the integration constants, emphasizing that both forms are equivalent due to the properties of logarithms. The user is encouraged to evaluate the integral by hand to verify the solution, which should match the expected answer of $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$. The conversation highlights common pitfalls in integration and the importance of careful notation.
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Hello MHB,

$$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx$$
My progress:
$$\int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2$$
$$\int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx$$
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Hello MHB,

$$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx$$
My progress:
$$\int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2$$
$$\int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx$$
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,

Edit: Can't change subject, I did misspelled 'Iterated integral'

How did you integrate $$\frac {1}{2x}$$ ?
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
How did you integrate $$\frac {1}{2x}$$ ?
Typo should be $$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be $$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$
 
Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Typo should be $$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be $$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$

They are actually the same , can you see why ?
 
Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$

Also you should have got $$2\ln(x) $$ not $$2\ln (2) $$
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
They are actually the same , can you see why ?
I think I need tea.. Yeah I see they are same
$$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$ if we derivate we get
$$\frac{\frac{2}{2x}}{2}<=>\frac{1}{2x}$$
$$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$ if we derivate we get $$\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{2} <=> \frac{1}{2x}$$
 
Re: iterated integral

Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$
 
Re: iterated integral

This is related to the constant of integration

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1$$

Now assume that $$c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1$$

Hence

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c$$
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
This is related to the constant of integration

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1$$

Now assume that $$c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1$$

Hence

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c$$
Thanks!But have I antiderivated correct:)?
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$

Try evaluating it by hand , it should be the same .
 

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