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The forum discussion centers on the evaluation of the iterated integral $$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \left(\frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}\right)dydx$$. Participants identify errors in antiderivatives, particularly in integrating $$\frac{1}{2x}$$, clarifying that both $$\frac{\ln(2x)}{2}$$ and $$\frac{\ln(x)}{2}$$ yield the same derivative. The correct evaluation of the integral leads to the conclusion that the answer should be $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$, emphasizing the importance of correctly handling constants of integration.

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Hello MHB,

$$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx$$
My progress:
$$\int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2$$
$$\int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx$$
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Hello MHB,

$$\int_4^1\int_1^2 \frac{x}{y}+\frac{y}{x}dydx$$
My progress:
$$\int_1^4[x\ln(y)+\frac{y^2}{2x}]_1^2$$
$$\int_1^4 x\ln(2)+\frac{2}{x}-\frac{1}{2x}dx$$
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$
What I am doing wrong?

Regards,

Edit: Can't change subject, I did misspelled 'Iterated integral'

How did you integrate $$\frac {1}{2x}$$ ?
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
How did you integrate $$\frac {1}{2x}$$ ?
Typo should be $$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be $$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$
 
Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Typo should be $$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$

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Ohh I see... I antiderivated it wrong... Should be $$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$

They are actually the same , can you see why ?
 
Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
$$[\frac{x^2\ln(2)}{2}+2\ln(2)-\ln(2x)]_1^4$$

Also you should have got $$2\ln(x) $$ not $$2\ln (2) $$
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
They are actually the same , can you see why ?
I think I need tea.. Yeah I see they are same
$$\frac{ln(2x)}{2}$$ if we derivate we get
$$\frac{\frac{2}{2x}}{2}<=>\frac{1}{2x}$$
$$\frac{ln(x)}{2}$$ if we derivate we get $$\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{2} <=> \frac{1}{2x}$$
 
Re: iterated integral

Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$
 
Re: iterated integral

This is related to the constant of integration

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1$$

Now assume that $$c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1$$

Hence

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c$$
 
Re: iterated integral

ZaidAlyafey said:
This is related to the constant of integration

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (2x) }{2} + c_1 = \frac { \ln (2) +\ln (x) }{2} + c_1$$

Now assume that $$c= \frac { \ln (2) }{2} + c_1$$

Hence

$$\int \frac{1}{2x} dx = \frac { \ln (x) }{2} + c$$
Thanks!But have I antiderivated correct:)?
 
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Re: iterated integral

Petrus said:
Do I got more misstake that I can't see cause I get the answer and facit says $$\frac{21}{2}\ln(2)$$

Try evaluating it by hand , it should be the same .
 

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