News Michael Moore: The Infamous Idiot and Egomaniac

[WheelsRCool]

Hitler/Nazi thing?

 

[ShawnD]

Hitler/Nazi thing?

Godwin's Law

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:[2][3]

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons, especially fallacious arguments of the reductio ad Hitlerum form.

The rule does not make any statement as to whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages.

Godwin has stated that he introduced Godwin's law as an experiment in memetics.[3] However, linking reductio ad Hitlerum to discussion length had already been done in humorous Usenet adage form the previous year, by a poster named Richard Sexton: "You can tell when a USENET[sic] discussion is getting old when one of the participents[sic] drags out Hitler and the Nazis."[6] It is unknown whether Sexton's quip directly influenced Godwin's law.

 

[wildman]

The funniest thing I found about Far. 9/11 film was that he attacked Bush for the very thing that Conservative Talk Radio attacks Clinton for... Which is inaction on terrorism before 9/11. Which proves that Clinton and Bush in many ways are not that different.

As far as Sicko goes... well my wife is a nurse and my father in law is a doctor and they all say our system is broke. Things are rapidly going down hill. At least Moore is bringing up issues and causing debate. That has to be a good thing even if you don't agree with him because we can't keep going the way we are.

 

[LightbulbSun]

The funniest thing I found about Far. 9/11 film was that he attacked Bush for the very thing that Conservative Talk Radio attacks Clinton for... Which is inaction on terrorism before 9/11. Which proves that Clinton and Bush in many ways are not that different.

As far as Sicko goes... well my wife is a nurse and my father in law is a doctor and they all say our system is broke. Things are rapidly going down hill. At least Moore is bringing up issues and causing debate. That has to be a good thing even if you don't agree with him because we can't keep going the way we are.

It doesn't help lieing about these issues.

 

[ShawnD]

The funniest thing I found about Far. 9/11 film was that he attacked Bush for the very thing that Conservative Talk Radio attacks Clinton for... Which is inaction on terrorism before 9/11. Which proves that Clinton and Bush in many ways are not that different.

The funny thing is that he only started to be super anti-bush after 9/11. On his show The Awful Truth (which was during the Clinton days), he said time and time again that both parties were garbage, pretty much the same, and that most people really don't have a voice. The whole point of his Vote Ficus thing was to show that he could get a lot of support for something simply because it was different from the others, even if it's just a plant.

edit: his films are a bit much, but his TV show was really good. It's definitely worth watching if you know somebody who has the episodes on tape/dvd/computer.

 

[edward]

As documentaries go, Fahrenheit 911 was much better documented than most.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/index.php?id=19

So was Sicko.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/checkup/

The guy just didn't make up all of that stuff up. People tend to claim anything to be a lie if it is something they don't want to believe.

My sister in law still thinks that there are WMD somewhere in Iraq.

Conservatives seem to filter any information through their wallets before either accepting or denying it.

 

[edward]

The funny thing is that he only started to be super anti-bush after 9/11. On his show The Awful Truth (which was during the Clinton days), he said time and time again that both parties were garbage, pretty much the same, and that most people really don't have a voice. The whole point of his Vote Ficus thing was to show that he could get a lot of support for something simply because it was different from the others, even if it's just a plant.

edit: his films are a bit much, but his TV show was really good. It's definitely worth watching if you know somebody who has the episodes on tape/dvd/computer.

Mores first film "Roger and Me came out in the late 80"s. It was actually quite funny.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/dogeatdogfilms/rogerme.html

There are a lot of clips from "The Awful truth" on youtube.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOaTpYl8mE&feature=related

 

[ShawnD]

As documentaries go, Fahrenheit 911 was much better documented than most.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/index.php?id=19

So was Sicko.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/checkup/

Interesting stuff on those pages, including a lot of stuff that either wasn't in either film or I didn't remember hearing. I'll be sure to read all of them when I have some time.

 

[russ_watters]

The funny thing is that he only started to be super anti-bush after 9/11. On his show The Awful Truth (which was during the Clinton days), he said time and time again that both parties were garbage, pretty much the same, and that most people really don't have a voice.

He's so far to the left that that doesn't actually mean anything. Similarly, my boss dislikes Bush because Bush is far too liberal for his taste.

his films are a bit much, but his TV show was really good. It's definitely worth watching if you know somebody who has the episodes on tape/dvd/computer.

I actually didn't realize (thank you, IMDB) that he had a show on so long ago. I guess they were tamer because his ego hadn't exploded yet.

 

[phoenixy]

He's so far to the left that that doesn't actually mean anything. Similarly, my boss dislikes Bush because Bush is far too liberal for his taste.

Russ you got to be careful with your boss. Recent history has demonstrated that hardcore political and religious conservatives are very likely to have secret desire for male companion. Something to do with the manifestation of amplified hypocrisy gene.