Min. Phase Diff.: Find x_p at Wavelength λ, 2 Sources S1 & S2

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two isotropic point sources emitting light in phase at a specific wavelength. The sources are separated by a distance of 6.00λ and are positioned relative to a viewing screen at a distance of 2.00λ. The goal is to determine the position xp on the screen where the rays from the two sources have the minimum possible phase difference.

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of "minimum possible phase difference" and whether it refers to the first dark point. There are attempts to derive expressions for the path lengths and conditions for constructive interference. Some participants suggest using geometric relationships rather than formulas due to the proximity of the sources to the screen.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions made in the original problem and exploring different interpretations of the phase difference. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the geometry of the situation rather than relying solely on approximations.

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There is uncertainty regarding the placement of the sources relative to the screen and the implications of the distance between them. The original problem statement's clarity is also questioned, particularly concerning the definition of minimum phase difference.

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Two isotropic (radiating the same intensity of EM wave in all directions) point sources S1and S2 emit light in phase at wavelength λ and at the same amplitude. The sources are separated by distance 2d=6.00λ. They lie on the axis that parallel to the x-axis, which runs along a viewing screen at distance D=2.00λ. The origin lies on the perpendicular bisector between the sources. The figure below shows two rays reaching point P on the screen, at position xp

At what value of xp do the rays have the minimum possible phase difference?


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From question, the minimum possible phase difference, does it mean that the first dark point, or not?

I tried like this...
[tex]\Delta L=d\sin \theta) = (m+0.5)\lambda[/tex]
[tex]\frac{2dx_{p}}{D} = 0.5\lambda[/tex]
[tex]\frac{6 \lambda x_{p}}{20\lambda}[/tex]
[tex]x_{p} = 1.66\lambda[/tex]

Am I correct or not?
 
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Your attachment hasn't been approved yet, so I can't see it.
Are the sources a distance 2 wavelengths above the screen?
If the sources are that close to the screen, I would forget the formulas and just work out the distance from each source to P - expressions involving Xp, d and D. Choose Xp so the difference between the distances is one wavelength, to get the first constructive interference spot.

The formulas are approximate and they work well when the distance is large, but not close up.
 
Delphi is correct, noppawit. The formula you use involves the approximation that d is much smaller than D. That's not true here. So you have got to write down the formulas for the path lengths direct : take the distances between each slit and the point x_p. Constructive interference occurs first when the two path lengths differ by a wavelength.

You have to solve a quadratic equation to get the answer, I reckon.
 
For the S1 to Xp path, draw a line straight up from S1 to make a right triangle. Use the pythagorean formula to find the length of the path. Do the same for the other path. Write that the longer one is equal to the shorter one plus one wavelength. Solve for the distance Xp.
 
Does one wavelength represent the minimum possible phase difference?

Sorry to jump in here, but it isn't quite clear to me what is being asked in the original problem statement.
 
The minimum phase difference is zero. It will occur when the path difference is 0, 1, 2, 3 ... wavelengths.
 

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