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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of medications, originally developed for conditions like Alzheimer's and ADHD, to enhance cognitive function, particularly in individuals with traumatic brain injury (TBI). Participants explore the potential benefits and implications of these medications, including their use in military contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that medications like Adderall and Provigil are increasingly used to improve focus and cognitive performance, especially among students and scientists.
  • One participant mentions that Ritalin is being prescribed for TBI, suggesting it may improve cognitive function in affected individuals.
  • Another participant shares observations from working with TBI survivors, highlighting symptoms like absent-mindedness and distractibility, and questions whether these medications could alleviate such symptoms.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential side effects of these medications, including the risk of psychosis associated with modafinil.
  • There is a discussion about the military's interest in these medications, with one participant suggesting that the military might prioritize performance-enhancing drugs, potentially at the expense of mental health.
  • Several participants seek and share citations for relevant studies, particularly a 2002 study by Whyte et al. on psychostimulant use in TBI rehabilitation.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the availability of more recent research on this topic, suggesting that advancements may have occurred since the cited study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions regarding the efficacy and safety of using psychostimulants for TBI. While some acknowledge potential benefits, others raise concerns about side effects and ethical implications, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on older studies, the need for more recent research, and the potential variability in individual responses to medications. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the long-term effects of these treatments.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in cognitive enhancement, rehabilitation strategies for TBI, and the ethical implications of medication use in military and civilian contexts may find this discussion relevant.

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there was some thing on the news not long ago and i would like to find out what has happened in this field

folks are takeing med that tho made for some other condition are enhanceing their
abbility to thing better and be more on "their game" then normal
and that the military has also been checking in on this

meds devloped for ahzimewrs and add and other conditions
have any been checked out for TBI as the new brain injured GI's comeing
home have issues with thought also ...
is it possable these will help them?
 
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Many people take adderall and provigil to stay awake / focus better. This is becoming more and more common especially amongst scientists and students.

As for your second question, I was not aware of anyone trying to treat traumatic brain injury (TBI) with psychophamacology. However, I just did a quick search and it turns out you're right. They are prescribing Ritalin for traumatic brain injury. It seems to improve scores on various measures of cognitive function that are often impaired by TBI.

c.f. (Whyte et. al. 2002 Psychostimulant use in the rehabilitation of individuals with traumatic brain injury)
 
i worked at a VA center and know several TBI survivors some mild, some not so ..
one thing that seems to be with all is that they are absent minded or forget want they were after or were they put something)and are easily distracted from conversation or task at hand...
would thoes symptions be helped by any of thoes meds?
does anyone know if there any clincial trials investagating this aspect of brain pills?
hummm... and what side effects from these meds..
btw: do you have a link for the Ritalin use?
 
Cincinnatus said:
c.f. (Whyte et. al. 2002 Psychostimulant use in the rehabilitation of individuals with traumatic brain injury)

Do you have a more complete citation for this? The journal and volume number? This sounds interesting and I'd like to read more about it.
 
I think I found it:



J. Whyte, M. Vaccaro, P. Grieb-Neff and T. Hart, Psychostimulant use in the rehabilitation of individuals with traumatic brain injury, Journal of Head Trauma Rehabilitation 17 (2002), pp. 284–289.
 
334dave said:
there was some thing on the news not long ago and i would like to find out what has happened in this field

folks are takeing med that tho made for some other condition are enhanceing their
abbility to thing better and be more on "their game" then normal
and that the military has also been checking in on this

meds devloped for ahzimewrs and add and other conditions
have any been checked out for TBI as the new brain injured GI's comeing
home have issues with thought also ...
is it possable these will help them?

yeah, I'm sure the military would be interested. especially considering they are keeping men in combat situations far longer than they should. maybe they should invest in drugs that induce a sociopathic/psychopathic state, since those seem to be the ones least affected. in any case, don't get the idea that what the military does would be in your best interest, because not only can amphetamine type drugs like adderall cause harm to your mental state, but modafinil can cause psychosis, too.


one of the more interesting alzheimer trials i read about actually involved injecting a TNFalpha reducing drug directly into patients' spinal/brain fluid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etanercept#Experimental.2Foff-label_uses
 
Math Is Hard said:
I think I found it:



J. Whyte, M. Vaccaro, P. Grieb-Neff and T. Hart, Psychostimulant use in the rehabilitation of individuals with traumatic brain injury, Journal of Head Trauma Rehabilitation 17 (2002), pp. 284–289.

and jest were can i find this on line?
could you provide a link or email me the article..
2002 seems a lot of resurch should have been done since then..
 
Math Is Hard said:
J. Whyte, M. Vaccaro, P. Grieb-Neff and T. Hart, Psychostimulant use in the rehabilitation of individuals with traumatic brain injury, Journal of Head Trauma Rehabilitation 17 (2002), pp. 284–289.

Yep, that was the article I saw. I'm sure there must be more recent written about this since 2002... though this is pretty far from my area.

There seems to be a more extensive literature on the use of psychostimulants in rehabilitation after stroke (or other CVA). The logic behind their use in both cases is probably similar...
 
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yes i found the buy it now on that site also..
well you guys seem to have some thoughts on the idea of stimulant treatment for some of the symptoms of TBI or perhaps have some experience in dealing with TBI survivors...
care to comment on this aspect ?
 

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