Minimal Dimensions for Maximum Bending Moment

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The discussion revolves around calculating the minimal thickness and width of aluminium beams that resist bending under a specific load, while considering both static and dynamic forces due to rotation at high speeds. The scope includes theoretical calculations and practical implications of beam design under mechanical loads.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in calculating the minimal dimensions of aluminium beams to resist bending under a specified load.
  • Another participant questions whether static bending is the limiting factor, citing the significant dynamic loading from rotation at 15000 RPM.
  • A subsequent reply references a lecturer's opinion that dynamic forces do not affect bending, suggesting it remains a static bending moment problem.
  • Another participant emphasizes the impact of centrifugal forces on the magnets due to rotation, indicating that bending may not be the primary concern.
  • A participant provides a formula for calculating the minimum values for thickness and width, referencing the bending stress equation and moment of inertia, while also presenting their derived equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether static or dynamic forces are the primary concern for bending in the beams. There is no consensus on the limiting factors affecting the design.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference assumptions about the securing of magnets and the specific conditions under which the calculations are made, but these assumptions are not universally accepted or clarified.

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Readers interested in mechanical engineering, materials science, or structural analysis may find the discussion relevant, particularly those dealing with beam design under dynamic loading conditions.

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Hi

Please can someone help me calculate the minimal thickness and width that will resist bending in each of the aluminium beams that are fixed on one end and support a 0.0013734 Newton load on the other.

The axis passes through the center of the octagonal shape and goes into the page. All measurements are in millimeters.

By referring to the attachment: t and d need to be minimized to a size that will not allow bending.

Thank you for your help
 

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I'm not certain that static bending is the limiting factor. Your diagram indicates that this object will spin at 15000 RPM. Such a speed will introduce significant dynamic loading on the magnets and their attachments to the hub.
 
Thanks for the reply

That's what I thought but when I spoke to my mechanics lecturer, he said that dynamic forces will not effect the bending of the beam because the dynamic forces will act along the beam towards the center axis. Therefore it is a static bending moment problem.

How would you go about solving for t and d?
 
When you have an object like the one in your picture rotating at 15000 RPM, the magnets will want to fly off the spokes due to the centrifugal loads set up by the rotation. It's still not clear to me that bending will be the limiting factor
 
I realize the magnet will fly off if it is not secured properly. We need to assume that the magnet is secured onto the beam so that it will not come off.

According to my lecturer, the minimum values for t and d that will resist bending must be solved for using:

σ = Mc/I

M = the resultant moment about the fixed point
c = the perpendicular distance from the neutral axis to the surface of the beam i.e t/2
I = the moment of inertia

and I get the following equation:

95Mpa = (1.441 x10^-5)(c) / (1/12)(d)(2c)^3
 

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