Minimum and maximum uncertainty values in quantum harmonic oscillator

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The discussion revolves around determining the minimum and maximum uncertainty values of position (\Deltax) in the context of a quantum harmonic oscillator. The original poster presents a wave function and seeks to understand how to incorporate time dependence into their calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of expectation values and the role of time dependence in the uncertainty of position. Questions arise regarding the disappearance of time dependence and methods for finding extrema of functions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering hints and guidance on finding the time-dependent expression for and the appropriate mathematical techniques to apply, such as taking derivatives. There is no explicit consensus yet on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the original poster's struggle with the time-dependent aspects of the problem and the need to clarify the calculations involving the wave function. The discussion reflects the complexity of quantum mechanics and the challenges of applying theoretical concepts to specific problems.

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Homework Statement




I have to find the minimum and maximum values of the uncertainty of \Deltax and specify the times after t=0 when these uncertainties apply.

Homework Equations



The wave function is Ψ(x, 0) = (1/√2) (ψ1(x)+ iψ3(x))

and for all t is Ψ(x, t) = (1/√2) (ψ1(x)exp(-3iwt/2+ iψ3(x)exp(-7iwt/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



the expectation value <x> = 0 ( given in my text )

hence \Deltax= \sqrt{}&lt;x^2&gt;

using the sandwich integral

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}ψ1\ast(x) x^2 ψ1(x) dx = \frac{3}{2} a^2

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi3\ast(x) x^2 \psi3(x) dx = \frac{7}{2}a^2

\int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi3\ast(x) x^2 \psi1 (x) dx = \int^{\infty}_{-\infty}\psi\ast1(x) x^2 \psi3 dx = \sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}a^2

where a is the length parameter of the oscillator.


Where do I go from here?
 
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You have calculated the probability density function correctly in a previous question you asked. Where has the time dependence disappeared? Secondly how does one find minimum/maximum values of a function generally?
 
I don't know where the time dependence has gone

I'm not sure how to calculate the minimum and maximum values of a function?
 
I've been going at this for so long now my mind is turning mushy
 
If you're following a course on quantum mechanics I'm pretty sure you know how to find the minimum/maximum of a function.

Hint: derivative
 
so i have to do a first derivative test
 
First you need to find the correct time dependent expression for <x^2>. After that you take the derivative with respect to the appropriate variable and solve for said variable.
 
I don't know how to find the time dependent expression for <x^2>
 
In your other thread on this topic you calculated the probability density function for this time dependent wave function. The one with a sine in it and a t etc? You must remember.
This is the correct "sandwich" expression to use. What you've calculated now is the time independent expectation value of x^2.

cleggy said:
that should have been

|\Psi|^2 = [1/2][|\psi1|^2 + |\psi3|^2

+ 2\psi1\psi3sin(2wot)]
 

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