Minimum Surface Charge Density for Spark Creation

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The problem involves determining the minimum surface charge density required to produce a spark at the tip of a metal needle, given that the electric field strength must exceed 3.0x10^6 N/C. The context is rooted in electrostatics and the behavior of electric fields around charged conductors.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between electric field strength and surface charge density, with one participant attempting to integrate the electric field over the surface area of a cylindrical model. Questions arise regarding the uniformity of charge distribution and the implications of the geometry of the needle's tip.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the nature of charge distribution on the needle and the distinction between total charge and surface charge density. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct relationships and assumptions involved in the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the geometry of the needle's tip and the non-uniformity of surface charge density, which may affect the calculations. The discussion reflects an understanding of the constraints imposed by the physical properties of conductors.

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Homework Statement


A spark occurs at the tip of a metal needle if the electric field strength exceeds 3.0x10^6 N/C.
What is the minimum surface charge density for producing a spark?

Homework Equations



int(EdA) = (Qin) / e0

The Attempt at a Solution



I imagine the surface as a cylinder with the electric field going parallel to it.

int(EA) = backface + side + frontface = EA + EA = 2EA
E = 3.0x10^6 N/C
A = (pi)r^2

(2)(3.0x10^6 N/C)(pi)r^2 = (Qin) / e0

(e0)(2)(3.0x10^6 N/C)(pi)r^2 = Qin

Then, I don't want r is! I've probably gone about solving this all wrong, thanks in advance for your help.
 
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You know that free charges can not exist inside a metal so what do you mean on Qin?
The surface charge density is not uniform on the surface of a needle, and the tip of a needle is not flat.
You also might remember that Q/ε0 electric field lines originate from a unit positive charge, and the electric field strength is the number of field lines traversing a normal unit surface.

So the electric field strength given is related directly to the surface charge density on the metal.

ehild
 
You definitely cleared up a lot for me! Thanks!

So:

Q/ε0 = E

Q = E(ε0)
 
It is not charge (Q) but surface charge density (σ). But the result is OK.

ehild
 

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