Modern QM by Sakurai and Napolitano

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The discussion revolves around the 2nd edition of "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai and Napolitano, focusing on its content, changes from previous editions, and its suitability for different educational levels in quantum mechanics. Participants share their opinions on the book's quality, updates, and its place in the context of other quantum mechanics texts.

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  • Some participants express enthusiasm for the new edition, noting improvements in presentation and contemporary discussions of topics.
  • Others clarify that Sakurai is often used at the graduate level in North America, while some still consider it accessible for advanced undergraduates.
  • A participant mentions that the 2017 edition may be a reissue of the 2nd edition, which was originally published in 2011.
  • Concerns are raised about the inclusion of new material that some feel deviates from the original spirit of Sakurai's work, particularly regarding a chapter on relativistic quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant shares their positive experience with Sakurai's text in their own studies, highlighting its effectiveness in overcoming previous educational shortcomings.
  • A request for recommendations on quantum physics books focused on problem-solving leads to a suggestion of Sakurai, though uncertainty about its appropriateness for that purpose is expressed.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the value of the new edition, with some praising it and others criticizing the changes made. The discussion reflects multiple competing views on the book's educational level and the appropriateness of its new content.

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Some participants note that the changes in the new edition may not align with the original author's intent, and there are differing opinions on the educational level at which the book is suitable. The discussion also highlights the historical context of the text and its revisions.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators in physics, particularly those interested in quantum mechanics textbooks and their evolution over time.

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I have recently received an inspection copy of the 2nd edition of Modern Quantum Mechanics by Sakurai, now co-authored by Jim Napolitano.

Here goes some free publicity: I love this book! It is like the old Sakurai, simply better. I know that many here at PF recommend Sakurai for advanced undergraduate QM, so I would like to let you know that it just got better.
 
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DrClaude said:
I have recently received an inspection copy of the 2nd edition of Modern Quantum Mechanics by Sakurai, now co-authored by Jim Napolitano.

Here goes some free publicity: I love this book! It is like the old Sakurai, simply better. I know that many here at PF recommend Sakurai for advanced undergraduate QM, so I would like to let you know that it just got better.

What's new ?
 
DrClaude said:
I know that many here at PF recommend Sakurai for advanced undergraduate QM, so I would like to let you know that it just got better.

Actually, in North America, Sakurai (and Napolitano) is more often used in grad school quantum mechanics (from back cover: " a graduate-level, non-historical, modern introduction"). Griffiths or Townsend or McIntyre are often used for undergrad quantum mechanics.
 
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Actually, in North America, Sakurai (and Napolitano) is more often used in grad school quantum mechanics (from back cover: " a graduate-level, non-historical, modern introduction"). Griffiths or Townsend or McIntyre are often used for undergrad quantum mechanics.
That's reasonable, but I would still put Sakurai at the upper undergraduate level, as I think it is accessible to a student who has worked with Griffiths or McIntyre in a first QM course. I would hope that a grad student would be able to tackle Ballentine directly :smile:.
 
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DrClaude said:
I have recently received an inspection copy of the 2nd edition of Modern Quantum Mechanics by Sakurai, now co-authored by Jim Napolitano.

Here goes some free publicity: I love this book! It is like the old Sakurai, simply better. I know that many here at PF recommend Sakurai for advanced undergraduate QM, so I would like to let you know that it just got better.
Great book. But I believe the 2017 edition is just a reissue. If I am not mistaken the 2nd edition was published around 2010 (by Pearson).
 
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smodak said:
Great book. But I believe the 2017 edition is just a reissue. If I am not mistaken the 2nd edition was published around 2010 (by Pearson).
You're right. I just found the mention that it was previously published in 2011. I was only aware of the revised edition of 1994. But the typography appears to me new.
 
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DrClaude said:
That's reasonable, but I would still put Sakurai at the upper undergraduate level, as I think it is accessible to a student who has worked with Griffiths or McIntyre in a first QM course. I would hope that a grad student would be able to tackle Ballentine directly :smile:.
It's the text we used in our theory course. At my university (TU Darmstadt) the QT came after the "Vordiplom" in the theory course (after Mathematical methods, analytical mechanics, classical electrodynamics). I loved this text, because it helped me to get rid of all the sins of physics didactics imposed on me as a high-school student and by the experimental-physics lecture, tormenting us with "old quantum mechanics" like the Bohr model of atoms ;-)).

Interestingly, we had a "revised edition", edited by S. F. Tuan, which differed from the 1st edition by including some more topics like the path-integral approach and the electric and magnetic Aharonov-Bohm effect and things like this.

It's still my favorite introductory QM 1 text.

Another brillant one is available only in German: E. Fick, Einführung in die Grundlagen der Quantentheorie. It's the only book I know, which gives a very clear exposition of the general picture of time evolution!
 
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I don't understand the joy (?) behind the second edition (actually, one has a new author, so it is actually a new book), because all additions are definitely outside the spirit of the late JJ Sakurai. If the fellow was still alive at the moment of Napolitano's rewriting, he wouldn't have approved with these additions (one outrageous chapter on "relativistic quantum mechanics", total butchering of the 2nd chapter by adding useless material which would be at an introductory/undergraduate level, unnecessary stuff in chapter 3, etc.) which make the charm of this book simply go away. :(
 
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What? There's a chapter on "relativistic quantum mechanics" in this 2nd edition? Usually this means they treat relativistic QT as if one could treat it in 1st quantization as non-relativistic QT, and this is an outdated view since the early works on QFT by Jordan, Dirac, and Heisenberg, let alone in the 21st century. Ok, Bjorken and Drell vol. 1 is to blame for this sin too, but writing even a chapter 50 years later in this misleading way is indeed against the spirit of Sakurai. When I recommend it, I refer to the older version ("Revised Edition" coauthored/edited by Tuan, not Napolitano).

The same was done to the brillant book on mathematical methods in physics by Courant and Hilbert. I fortunately have the original two-volume version. I think, one must not allow to rewrite such all-time classics of the textbook history in an attempt to make them "modern". You always get something worse than the original!
 
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Hi PF Community!

I am looking for an undergraduate/graduate Quantum Physics book focused on problem solving (or at least with a good amount of useful problems) setting aside Griffiths and came across Sakurai's book.

Based on the online version (1994), I see there are a bunch of problems per chapter.

Should I go for Sakurai or there's another book on QP more focused on problem solving?

Thanks.
 
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JD_PM said:
I am looking for an undergraduate/graduate Quantum Physics book focused on problem solving (or at least with a good amount of useful problems) setting aside Griffiths and came across Sakurai's book.

Based on the online version (1994), I see there are a bunch of problems per chapter.

Should I go for Sakurai or there's another book on QP more focused on problem solving?

I am not sure if it is at the right level or if it has the material that you want, but "Quantum Mechanics: Concepts and Applications" by Nouredine Zettili contains many examples and detailed solutions to many problems.
 
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