Modulus problem with a negative sign

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around solving modulus problems, particularly those involving negative signs. Participants explore different methods for analyzing the function \( f(x) = |x+4| - |x| - |x-3| \) and its graphical representation, as well as the implications of specific values for \( f(x) \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the name of a second method for solving modulus problems presented in a video, indicating a lack of understanding of the explanation.
  • Another participant describes the process of plotting the function \( f(x) \) using specific coordinate values and predicts the graph's behavior based on additional points.
  • A question is raised about the approach to take if \( f(x) = 2 \) instead of \( f(x) = 12 \), suggesting that there may be two solutions for \( f(x) = 2 \).
  • One participant asserts that \( f(x) = 12 \) has no solutions, as the graph does not intersect the line \( y = 12 \), while providing a method for finding solutions when \( f(x) = 2 \).
  • Another participant reiterates the same points regarding the lack of solutions for \( f(x) = 12 \) and suggests a method for finding solutions for \( f(x) = 2 \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that \( f(x) = 12 \) has no solutions, but there is uncertainty regarding the solutions for \( f(x) = 2 \), with multiple methods proposed without consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the specific methods for finding solutions for \( f(x) = 2 \) and lacks clarity on the second method mentioned in the video.

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In a video, a person discussed how to solve modulus problems with a negative sign. This is the link of that video lecture.

He showed two methods to solve the problem. The first method is commonly used. Later he showed another method where he used a number line and a graph.

Unfortunately, I couldn't understand his explanation properly. What is the original name of the second method he discussed in that video? If I could learn the actual name of the second method, I could googled to learn more about that.
 
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He is just plotting the function $f(x) = |x+4| - |x| - |x-3|$ using the coordinate values $(-4,f(-4))$, $(0,f(0))$, and $(3, f(3))$. He selects two more x-values, one > 3 and the other < -4, and evaluates the function at those other two to predict the behavior of the graph.

Note the graph's highest y-value is at $(3, f(3))$ ... it never gets as high as 12, indicating no solution to the equation.

Unfortunately, he doesn't say what to do if, say, $f(x) = 2$ instead of $f(x)=12$. Still, one can see by the graph there would be two possible solutions.

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@skeeter , Will you please say what we could do if f(x)=2 instead of f(x)=12?

And probably for f(x)=12, still there might be two possible solutions. Will you please say what those solutions are, and how to find out those solutions?
 
f(x) = 12 has no solutions ... note the graph of f(x) does not intersect the horizontal line y = 12.

If f(x) = 2, I would find the linear equation of the line between the points $(0,f(0))$ and $(3,f(3))$, set it equal to 2 and solve for x.

Do the same for the linear equation of the line between the points $(3,f(3))$ and say, $(5,f(5))$ and follow the same procedure.
 
skeeter said:
f(x) = 12 has no solutions ... note the graph of f(x) does not intersect the horizontal line y = 12.

If f(x) = 2, I would find the linear equation of the line between the points $(0,f(0))$ and $(3,f(3))$, set it equal to 2 and solve for x.

Do the same for the linear equation of the line between the points $(3,f(3))$ and say, $(5,f(5))$ and follow the same procedure.
Thanks a lot for your cordial help.
 

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