Moment of Inertia of Disc through diameter

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The problem involves determining the moment of inertia of a disc through its diameter, with participants discussing various methods and interpretations of the problem setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for calculating moment of inertia, including the use of mass strips and questioning the definitions of mass elements. There is discussion about the relationship between the distance from the axis and the coordinates used in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the shape and placement of mass elements. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the definitions of mass elements and their distances from the axis, as well as the implications of using different coordinate systems in the calculations.

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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



I managed to solve it using a different method. I have no idea what the answer is talking about..

My method

Found dI of a strip = (1/3)*dm*h2

then i replace h by x, then integrate from -a to a to get the same answer.

But as for the answers, I have no clue.
 

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As far as I can tell, x in the answer is perpendicular to the axis against which the moment is being determined. I think you can figure out the rest.
 
voko said:
As far as I can tell, x in the answer is perpendicular to the axis against which the moment is being determined. I think you can figure out the rest.

The problem is, I can't fingure out what is the shape of their dM.

It looks as if they are taking a small square mass dM that is distance x away from axis (perpendicularly)

so I = x2 dM

but dM = 2σ √(a2-x2)

It looks as if √(a2-x2) is referring to the distance along the axis from the origin..But how does that make any sense? r in ∫ r2 dM refers to distance from the axis and not the origin.

Then are they using dM as a strip or a small square mass?
 
They are taking the entire strip parallel to the axis at distance x from it.
 
To understand the general statement, it may be easier to consider only a small mass element, dm, of the disc placed at coordinate x, y (with z being zero since its a plate). This one mass element contributes to the MOI around the x-axis as dIx = y2dm, to the MOI around the y-axis as dIy = x2dm, and to the MOI around the z axis as dIz = (x2+y2)dm = x2dm + y2dm, which, using the two previous equations, means that dIz = dIy + dIx (make a diagram if you have trouble seing this). Since this is valid for all the mass element of the planar disc it must also be valid for the sum (or rather the integral) of all the mass elements MOI, that is, Iz = Ix + Iy.
 
voko said:
They are taking the entire strip parallel to the axis at distance x from it.

Yup, I finally figured that out. Initially I worked it out by using a strip perpendicular to the axis with an MOI of dI = (1/3)x2 dM
 

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