Moment of inertia of half disk through integration

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the moment of inertia (MoI) of a half solid thin disk about its center, using integration techniques. Participants explore different approaches to the problem, including the implications of mass definitions and the geometry of the disk.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an integral approach to calculate the moment of inertia of a half disk, suggesting the result should be ##MR^2/4##.
  • Another participant questions the mass definition used in the integral, prompting a discussion about the mass of the half disk versus the full disk.
  • There is a clarification regarding the axis of rotation, with one participant noting the axis is perpendicular to the disk.
  • Confusion arises about the relationship between the moment of inertia for the full disk and the half disk, with participants discussing how different mass assumptions affect the results.
  • One participant concludes that by symmetry, each half of the disk contributes equally to the moment of inertia.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct mass to use in the calculations, leading to multiple interpretations of the moment of inertia for the half disk. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these different mass definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the dependence on mass definitions and the geometry of the disk, which may affect the integration results. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the calculations.

RaamGeneral
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Hello, sorry for this stupid question.
I struggled to find the moment of inertia of half solid thin disk (about the center of the disk) through an integration, but I couldn't get the right value.

I'm pretty sure it has to be MR^2/4, but
<br /> I=\int r^2 dm \\<br /> dm=(M/A)dS

With A=\pi R^2/2

I compute the integration in polar coordinates, where dS=r dr d\theta with 0<r<R and 0<theta<pi:
2M/(\pi R^2) \int_0^R \int_0^\pi r^3 d\theta dr=MR^2/2

Where am I wrong?
 
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I guess you think it should be ##MR^2/4## because the MoI of a full disk is ##MR^2/2##. But, what have you taken as the mass of your half disk? And, what would the mass of the full disk be?
 
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What do you mean about the center? I can think of three ways to rotate a half circle about it's center.
 
mmh, I think I can see your point. but I'm a bit confused now.

if I take M=(mass of full disk), I(full disk)=MR^2 /2 and I(half disk)=MR^2 /4
if I take M=(mass of half disk) [as I did for the integral], I(full disk)=2MR^2 /2 and I(half disk)=MR^2 /2 (the result of the integral)

So, it seems that if I have an amount M of mass and I shape it to be a full disk or a half disk, I get the same moment of inertia.

BiGyElLoWhAt, you right, I mean about the axis perpendicular to the disk.
 
RaamGeneral said:
mmh, I think I can see your point. but I'm a bit confused now.

if I take M=(mass of full disk), I(full disk)=MR^2 /2 and I(half disk)=MR^2 /4
if I take M=(mass of half disk) [as I did for the integral], I(full disk)=2MR^2 /2 and I(half disk)=MR^2 /2 (the result of the integral)

So, it seems that if I have an amount M of mass and I shape it to be a full disk or a half disk, I get the same moment of inertia.

Yes, that's correct. By symmetry, each half of the disk contributes half of the MoI.
 
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