Momentum Eigenstates in 1D Infinite Square Well

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The discussion centers on the existence of momentum eigenstates in the context of a one-dimensional infinite square well potential. Participants explore the implications of boundary conditions on wavefunctions and the relationship between energy and momentum eigenstates in confined systems.

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  • One participant questions whether momentum eigenstates exist in a 1D infinite square well, suggesting that the confinement leads to a large uncertainty in momentum, which may imply their non-existence.
  • Another participant argues that in a finite potential well, momentum eigenstates exist similarly to free particles, but they do not correspond to energy eigenstates.
  • A clarification is provided regarding the Hilbert space for the infinite well, indicating that it consists of functions that vanish outside the well, leading to the conclusion that there are no momentum eigenstates in this space.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the infinite potential confines the particle, which restricts the wavefunctions to be zero outside a certain interval, further supporting the claim of no momentum eigenstates.

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Participants express differing views on the existence of momentum eigenstates in the infinite square well, with some suggesting they do not exist due to confinement, while others draw comparisons to finite wells and free particles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these arguments.

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Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of eigenstates and the mathematical treatment of the Hilbert space, as well as the implications of normalizability for momentum eigenstates.

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Hi,
I have a question about the momentum eigenstates in a 1D infinite square well example. First of all, are there any eigenstates at all in this example?
By explicitly applying the wavefunction(stationary states) which can be easily obtained from the boundary conditions, it can shown that the energy eigenstate doesn't have a corresponding momentum eigenstate(in the free particle case, each energy eigenstate corresponds to a momentum eigenstate)
I believe it's because the particle is confined that it has a large uncertainty in momentum so no momentum eigenstates exist. But I,myself is not very convinced by this argument.
Any input is appreciated.
 
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Well, if you consider a finite-potential square well, then the momentum eigenstates still exist in exactly the same sense that they do for a free particle; they just no longer correspond to the energy eigenstates.

For the infinite well, you could take this to mean that the Hilbert space consists of functions on the interval where the potential is zero. Then there are no momentum eigenstates.

(And I'm being mathematically sloppy; mathematicians would say that momentum eigenstates don't exist even for the free particle because they're not normalizable.)
 
Thanks, Avodyne, but I'm not sure what u mean by "the Hilbert space consists of functions on the interval where the potential is zero". Could you elaborate a little bit?
 
If the potential is infinite for (say) |x|>a, then the particle is never allowed to be there; any allowed wavefunction, at any time, must be zero for |x| greater than or equal to a. So, we could take our Hilbert space to be square-integrable functions that vanish for |x| greater than or equal to a. In this Hilbert space, there are no eigenstates of the momentum operator.
 

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