Momentum question involving two objects of varying mass

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The discussion revolves around a momentum problem involving two carts of differing masses, specifically a 0.2 kg plastic cart and a 20 kg lead cart, both subjected to equal forces over a distance of 1 meter. Participants are exploring the implications of mass and force on momentum after the carts have traveled the specified distance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the relationship between mass, force, acceleration, and momentum using kinematic equations and the impulse-momentum theorem. Some participants question the reasoning behind the effects of mass on acceleration and momentum, particularly regarding the time interval of force application.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with one providing affirmation of the original poster's calculations. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the impulse-momentum theorem and how it relates to the problem at hand. Multiple interpretations of the reasoning are being explored, particularly concerning the relationship between force, mass, and momentum.

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The discussion is constrained by the lack of an answer key for self-verification, leading to a reliance on peer feedback for validation of reasoning and calculations.

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Homework Statement



A 0.2 kg plastic cart and a 20 kg lead cart can both roll without friction on a horizontal surface. Equal forces are used to push the two carts forward for a distance of 1 m, starting from rest. Which cart has the greater momentum, after the full 1m? After traveling 1 m, is the momentum of the plastic cart greater than, less than, or equal to the momentum of the lead cart? Explain.

Homework Equations


p = mv
Δs = (Vi+Vf) / 2 * (Vf-Vi) / a
F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Using kinematics, I found that the acceleration rate of each cart equals Vf^2 / 2, where Vf equals the final velocity of each cart.

Since Fnet = ma, I find that Fnet of the plastic cart = Fnet(c1) = 0.2kg * Vf(c1)^2 / 2 = Vf(c1)^2 / 10.
Fnet of the lead cart = Fnet(c2) = 20kg * Vf(c2)^2 / 2 = 10 * Vf(c2)^2

Since the problem tells us that the forces are equal for both carts, Fnet(c1) = Fnet(c2).
In other words, Vf(c1)^2 / 10 = 10 * Vf(c2)^2

Solving for Vf(c1), I find that Vf(c1) = 10*Vf(c2)

Since momentum P = mv, P(c1) = (0.2kg)(10*Vf(c2)) = 2 * Vf(c2).
P(c2) = 20kg*Vf(c2)

So I find that P(c1) = P(c2) / 10. Meaning P(c1) < P(c2).

There is no way to check my answer since there's no answer key that I can find and I'm self-studying. Is my answer above correct? Did I go wrong anywhere in my thinking? Thanks a lot in advance.
 
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Hello, goraemon. Welcome to PF!

Your work looks correct.

If you have studied the concept of impulse and also the impulse-momentum theorem, then you can use them to get the answer more quickly.

[The work-energy theorem is another approach.]
 
Thanks for your response TSny. I do recall reading about the impulse-momentum theorem...change in momentum = definite integral of the Force over some time interval, right?

So, let me see if I got this...since the plastic cart is lighter in mass than the lead cart, the same force exerted on the plastic cart will cause it to accelerate much faster, meaning it will cover the same distance in less time.

So this will result in a shorter time interval for the application of the force, meaning the definite integral of the force will be smaller...therefore, the change in momentum will likewise be smaller for the plastic cart. Is this the right reasoning to use?
 
goraemon said:
So, let me see if I got this...since the plastic cart is lighter in mass than the lead cart, the same force exerted on the plastic cart will cause it to accelerate much faster, meaning it will cover the same distance in less time.

So this will result in a shorter time interval for the application of the force, meaning the definite integral of the force will be smaller...therefore, the change in momentum will likewise be smaller for the plastic cart. Is this the right reasoning to use?

Beautiful! :smile:
 

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