Monitoring a Live, 80W, 12VDC Load

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a reliable method to visually indicate the continuity of a resistance wire-based heating element circuit operating at approximately 80W and 12VDC. Participants explore various solutions that minimize additional load on the circuit while ensuring that any break in the circuit can be detected promptly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a simple LED in conjunction with a resistor to indicate current flow, but raises concerns about the LED's placement in relation to the load.
  • Another participant proposes winding a coil of wire around a compass to detect current flow based on the compass's orientation.
  • Several participants discuss the use of transistors and operational amplifiers as alternatives to minimize voltage drop and power loss in the circuit.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of using a reed relay with a low resistance coil to operate a signal light and buzzer alarm.
  • A suggestion is made to use a comparator chip with a low-value resistor in series with the load to keep the voltage drop minimal.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of using comparators for those without a strong electronics background, emphasizing the need for careful wiring layout.
  • Another participant shares their experience with analog ammeters from older cars as a potential solution.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the power ratings of resistors and their implications for current flow in the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to the problem, with no consensus on a single best solution. There is ongoing debate about the practicality and reliability of various proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Some participants question the assumptions regarding resistor ratings and power handling, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. The discussion includes varying levels of technical understanding among participants, which may affect the feasibility of suggested solutions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in circuit design, particularly in off-grid applications, as well as those seeking practical solutions for monitoring electrical continuity in low-power systems.

  • #31
Thank you all so much!

Wow. I feel like a mortal who was allowed to eavesdrop on a debate between the Gods!

I got the reed switches and the 18g. magnet wire in! (The 18 gauge wire will minimize any additional resistance in the circuit and the 1.5A switch will be able to do a lot more than just light a LED!)

I wrapped 14˝ of the the wire around a 7/64˝ drill bit shank (after breaking the first switch wrapping the wire around it—wow, they are fragile!) for 18 turns and it works great! 18 is about all the turns that can fit on the switch, but I figured it really didn’t have to fit entirely on the switch if it wasn’t in contact with it. So . . .

I made two more with 22 turns each and am using them inside the Sun-Mar Excel NE composting toilet to monitor each of the two heating plates separately (WOW!), with the switch sitting inside the coil, which is wrapped with a strip of a rubber jar-opening pad, and all slid inside in a 1/2˝ copper tube to protect them. The ends of the copper tube are sealed with hot-melt glue (a reliably unreliable material which allows it to be disassembled if ever necessary ;-) ).

They work great! Thank you! And the red LEDs are great for night lights! (“It’s a floor wax. No, it’s a desert topping.” ;-) )

Now I want to take a dual trip point temperature sensor with a NTC thermistor, set such that it will switch the heating plates on when the compost inside the composting drum gets down to 20 degreeC point and it will switch the heating plates off when the compost inside the composting drum gets up to 40 degreeC.

But that’s another topic for another time—I still need to do more research. ;-)

Thank you all SO MUCH for your help!

Blessings to you all!
 

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