Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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The discussion revolves around the film "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," focusing on participants' interpretations, humor appreciation, and the film's structure. Participants express confusion about the film's coherence and humor style, while others provide context about Monty Python as a comedy group.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the film's purpose, questioning whether it is meant to be a cohesive story or a collection of random sketches.
  • Others suggest that understanding historical references and social customs is key to appreciating the humor in the film.
  • There are claims that the film serves as a satire of religion and historical events, though this is not universally agreed upon.
  • Some participants note that British humor differs significantly from American humor, which may affect viewers' reception of the film.
  • A few participants share their personal experiences with Monty Python, indicating that humor appreciation can vary widely among individuals.
  • Suggestions are made for exploring other Monty Python works or related films to gain a better understanding of their comedic style.
  • Several participants mention specific scenes or characters they found memorable, indicating a mix of enjoyment and confusion regarding the film's content.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the film's humor or coherence. There are multiple competing views regarding its effectiveness as a comedy and its cultural references, with some expressing strong dislike for British comedy while others defend its merits.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that familiarity with King Arthur and British cultural references may enhance understanding of the film, while others express that humor is subjective and varies by personal taste.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in film analysis, comedy, cultural references in media, or those exploring differing comedic styles may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
I prefer the dead parrot sketch to the silly walk sketch.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2H6DSoqZz_s

IMO, the only thing missing from that sketch is John Cleese saying "This is a polly gone!"
 
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  • #32
I've yet to see the cheese shop sketch. :frown:
 
  • #33
Hurkyl said:
I've yet to see the cheese shop sketch. :frown:

Here it is! :smile:
 
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  • #34
arildno said:
Here it is! :smile:


Glee!

Alas,

Ye olde polearm shoppe

was all I had seen 'till now! When I read it, I thought it could have come straight from Monty Python -- I was quite surprised when I finally found out that it really had. :smile: I'd been wanting to see the original for a while. The cat makes more sense now. I hadn't noticed the condition of the bird before today, though! Can someone explain the snake?
 
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  • #37
mbrmbrg said:
OK, I get it now. Sketches. Think sketches. My personal favorite from a bit of internet browsing would be the argument clinic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk"

[Monty Python] No it's not! [/Monty Python]:wink:
 
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  • #38
gravenewworld said:
ridicule me all you want but i have never ever liked british comedy and thought every monty python I have ever watched was incredibly terrible.

:eek: someone who gets it
 
  • #39
You're no fun anymore.
 
  • #40
from my favorite sketch - Mrs. Premise and Mrs. Conclusion visit Jean Paul Sartre...

Mrs Premise: Madame S. - est-ce que Jean est chez vous? Oh merde. When will he be free? Oh pardon. Quand sera-t-il libre? Oooooh. Ha ha ha ha (to Mrs Conclusion) She says he's spent the last sixty years trying to work that one out...

:smile: :smile: :smile:

http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode27.htm
 
  • #41
the famous sketches are horribly overrated imho, especially the ministry of silly walks & dead parrot sketches. the cheese shop is ok though. these ones are better:
the hungarian phrasebook

vocational guidance counsellor ("back to the office with you then :smile: )

man who only speaks the ends of words

marriage guidance counsellor


the cartoons are my favourite part of that show like
conrad poohs & his dancing teeth

killer cars
 
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  • #42
fourier jr said:
the famous sketches are horribly overrated imho, especially the ministry of silly walks & dead parrot sketches. the cheese shop is ok though. these ones are better:
the hungarian phrasebook

vocational guidance counsellor ("back to the office with you then :smile: )

man who only speaks the ends of words

marriage guidance counsellor


the cartoons are my favourite part of that show like
conrad poohs & his dancing teeth

killer cars


Indeed My favourite was Bycicle repair man, in a world full of Superheroes only one man could fix a bycicle.

And Of course nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

The Bishop.

Tiger coffee it gives you cancer, all wonderful.

The gangs of old ladies that go round beating up young men.

The one where the man goes for an argument.

And who can forget the Gumbies.

There's trouble 't mill.

Too many good sketches, like any comedy show though some were a bit hard to get at first, but once you got into the swing of nonsense.

Life of Brian is better I reckon. More laughs and a more coherent plot.

Essentiall Holy grail is a search across England for the Holy grail, or an excuse to show various scenes in the quest, and they ran out of money at the end thus the rather abrupt ending.



Well I didn't vote for you.

You don't vote for a king?

The lady of the lake thrust her hand up from the lake presenting me the sword excalibur thus confirming my divine right to rule.

You can't wield supreme executive authority just because some watery tart lobbed a scimitar at you!
 
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  • #43
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumbies" :
"my brain hurts"

gumby brain surgery
 
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