Motion/Rest: Definition & Explanation

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Motion is defined as a change in position relative to another object or reference frame, and without such a reference, an object can only be considered at rest with respect to itself. In a hypothetical universe with a single object, the concepts of motion and rest become ambiguous, as they rely on comparisons with other objects. The discussion touches on the implications of acceleration, reference frames, and the nature of mass, emphasizing that rest mass is determined by an observer perceiving the object as at rest. Additionally, the conversation explores the limitations on speed and acceleration, referencing the Planck time and the relationship between mass and energy. Ultimately, the complexities of motion, rest, and reference frames illustrate the intricate nature of physics.
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Acceleration has a upper limit if there was no limit it would simply violate the maximum speed of information law.

In fact that stands for every variable x where

x = dy/dt (t is time and y is another variable)

=> x < ((3 x 10^8)[si unit of y])/sec
 
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ManishR said:
Acceleration has a upper limit if there was no limit it would simply violate the maximum speed of information law.

In fact that stands for every variable x where

x = dy/dt (t is time and y is another variable)

=> x < ((3 x 10^8)[si unit of y])/sec

I don't understand this concept of light as propagation of information. EM radiation propagates energy. Information is patterns, no?
 
  • #33
when we say acceleration has no upper limit what we saying actually is change in speed will be reflected to observer instantaneously.

for example let's consider an observer observing position and speed of an object (with help of thread and pulley, say)

first let me explain u the upper limit of speed( which is c )

distance between observer can be either x1 or x2.
but since object cannot change x faster than c
so information cannot reach at observer faster than c

now acceleration

let the speed be s1 or s2
if there is no limit at how fast s should change (ds/dt = infinity)

by changing speed (s1 or s2) the object can pass information to observer with speed of infinity ( using s1 as 0 and s2 as 1 which can be taken as a representation of information)

the point here is by using a thread and pulley ( not light) we can observe change in speed and distance instantaneously.
 
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ManishR said:
by changing speed (s1 or s2) the object can pass information to observer with speed of infinity ( using s1 as 0 and s2 as 1 which can be taken as a representation of information)

the point here is by using a thread and pulley ( not light) we can observe change in speed and distance instantaneously.
how does the change in the thread move faster than the thread itself? Also, what are you saying is changing speed, exactly, since radiation can't?
Is this a serious post or a homework project for obfuscation 101?
 
  • #35
It is time we changed our concept of motion! Whether the motion has relevence or not, a body in motion should be regarded as a body in motion. Maybe, energy is the quality of matter and all bodies remain in motion irrespective of whether it is alone or a part of a system.

We can define a body as something which may or may not have an internal structure. Any large body has an internal structure and so is a system. If it is alone, it is an independent system. The question that arises is: at what level of integration would a system become independent? At the level of universe? Then, will the universe move? Or, will the motion remain restricted to its constituents?
 
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