Motion with constant acceleration

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The problem involves calculating the depth of a well based on the time it takes for a rock to fall and the sound of it splashing back to the surface. It is situated within the context of motion with constant acceleration and sound propagation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the time taken for the rock to fall and the time for the sound to travel back up. There are attempts to set up equations based on these times and the known variables, such as the speed of sound and gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Status

Multiple participants are exploring the equations and calculations involved. Some express confidence in their results, while others suggest that mistakes may have been made in the calculations. There is an ongoing examination of the setup and the assumptions made in the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy in the calculated depth of the well, with participants questioning the validity of their results and the potential for errors in their mathematical processes. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to verify and clarify the approach taken.

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Homework Statement


A person is standing over a well and drops a rock. After 2.4 seconds he hears a rock splashing into the water. Take the speed of sound to be 300m/s and calculate the depth of the well.

Homework Equations


x=v/t for constant velocity
x=1/2at^2 for accelerated motion

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried this solving by taking t1=x/v x is depth of well and v speed of sound and also t2=(2x/g)^1/2
t1+t2=2.4 but i keep getting x to be 104.56 meters which can't be right although it seems all my steps are conclusive. Substituted t1 and t2 took p=x^1/2 and solved quadratic equation for p and god 10.4 m which goes to 104 m = x which is not right. What do you think is wrong?
 
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As a check work the numbers backwards..

On the way down..

d = ut+ 0.5gt2
u=0 so..
t = SQRT(2d/g) = SQRT(2*104/9.81) = 4.6 seconds

So you made a mistake somewhere.

Show your working?
 
T1+T2=2.4
X/v + ((2x)^1/2)/g^1:2 = 2.4
(g^1/2)x + v(2^1/2)x^1/2 = c
Call c = 2.4vg^1/2
take p=x^1/2
(g^1/2)p^2 + v(2^1/2)p - c = 0
I get p = 10.4 m
 
SpaceW said:
T1+T2=2.4
X/v + ((2x)^1/2)/g^1:2 = 2.4
(g^1/2)x + v(2^1/2)x^1/2 = c
Call c = 2.4vg^1/2
take p=x^1/2
(g^1/2)p^2 + v(2^1/2)p - c = 0 [*]
I get p = 10.4 m

I think your equation [*] is correct, but you made a mistake solving it.
 
I solved it twice getting the same answer
 
SpaceW said:
I solved it twice getting the same answer

Maybe you made the same mistake twice. You didn't forget something in the denominator of the formula for quadratic roots by any chance?
 
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