Mountain Climber- how many cm will the rope stretch before she stops?

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The problem involves a mountain climber who falls a distance of 4.5 m before the rope begins to decelerate her at a constant rate of 5.2g. The climber seeks to determine how much the rope will stretch before she comes to a stop, with various equations of motion and energy principles being referenced.

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of the constant deceleration value and its implications. There are attempts to relate work done on the climber to her change in kinetic energy. Some participants question the calculations and the equations used, seeking clarification on the relationships involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the problem statement and explore the relationship between work and kinetic energy. There are multiple interpretations of the equations and calculations being presented, and no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the terminology used in the problem statement, particularly the term "5.2g," and question the calculations presented. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between work and kinetic energy without providing a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement



A mountain climber is attached to a rope. She slips, and after she has fallen 4.5 m, the rope begins to help decelerate her. If the constant deceleration is 5.2g, how many cm will the rope stretch before she stops? (For most real ropes, the deceleration depends on the stretching of the rope.)

Homework Equations



x = x0 + v0t + 1/2 at2

v = v0 + at

2(x-x0) = (v+v0)t

v^2 = v^02 + 2a(x − x0)

g = 9.8 m/s^2


The Attempt at a Solution



mgh1 = mgh2
mass cancels on each side

(9.8m/s^2) * 5.2 = 50.96 m/s^2

(50.96 m/s^2) h = 9.8m/s^2 * 4.5 meter
h = 0.865 meters of rope stretch
= 86.5 cm

=> incorrect answer. Please help!
 
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I still couldn't get the right answer! Help please!
 
Hi! First off, your problem statement could use some work:

constant deceleration is 5.2g
what does this mean? grams?

(9.8m/s^2) * 5.2 = 50.96 m/s^2

what are you calculating here?

Anyway, let's think about this in a different light: You know that there is a relationship between the Work done on the climber and the climber's change in kinetic energy right?

Can you give me an equation that represents this relationship? :smile:
 
Saladsamurai said:
Hi! First off, your problem statement could use some work:


what does this mean? grams?



what are you calculating here?

Anyway, let's think about this in a different light: You know that there is a relationship between the Work done on the climber and the climber's change in kinetic energy right?

Can you give me an equation that represents this relationship? :smile:

5g = 5 * 9.8 m/s^2.

The equation is included on my problem above ;)
 
Hi again! No. That is not an equation, that is a calculation. I am looking for the relationship between work and kinetic energy. It says that

W = something to do with KE
 
Saladsamurai said:
Hi again! No. That is not an equation, that is a calculation. I am looking for the relationship between work and kinetic energy. It says that

W = something to do with KE

Here is how I just did:

a) velocity when she falling:

v^2 = 0 + 2(9.8)*4 = 78.4 => v = 8.9 m/s

b) when she fall at the end of the rope then she stops, so velocity at that time is 0 which is v = 0 m/s.
Now we know that at the end of the rope her velocity is 8.9 m/s, then she stop and continue to falling down (the rope stretching) => v0 = 8.9 m/s. We need to find her velocity after the rope stretching:

0 = 8.9^2 + 2(-5.6)Delta x
=> Delta x = 7.07 m => 707 cm => wrong answer.

What am I doing wrong?
 

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