MSc in Quantum Fields and Fundamental Forces at Imperial College London

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The discussion revolves around the MSc in Quantum Fields and Fundamental Forces at Imperial College London, focusing on the suitability of applicants, prerequisites, and potential pathways for those with non-physics backgrounds. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on the program's requirements, costs, and alternative educational routes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in the MSc program, seeking information on costs and the possibility of working while studying.
  • Another participant questions the physics background of electronic and communication engineers and emphasizes the importance of having studied Lagrangian & Hamiltonian mechanics, quantum mechanics, and special relativity as prerequisites.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of self-study in quantum mechanics without formal qualifications in physics, suggesting that thorough knowledge is necessary for success in the MSc program.
  • Some participants suggest obtaining a bachelor's degree in physics before pursuing a master's degree, highlighting the importance of foundational knowledge in math and physics.
  • There is a discussion about the classification of degrees in the UK, particularly the significance of a "first class" degree versus a "2:1" and how these classifications may affect admission to the MSc program.
  • Participants share differing opinions on the acceptance of students without physics degrees, with some asserting that adequate background is essential for understanding advanced topics.
  • One participant mentions a scholarship opportunity for a master's program at Chalmers in Sweden, questioning whether this path would be a mistake given their current background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether individuals without a physics degree can successfully apply for the MSc program. There are multiple competing views regarding the necessity of formal qualifications and the adequacy of self-study in physics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty regarding the specific prerequisites for the MSc program and the varying interpretations of degree classifications across different educational systems.

  • #31
3 days a week should be manageable. The course takes 2 years part time, so that's manageable too.
 
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  • #32
2 years, not so bad I suppose. Personally I don't know how I'd survive on 3 days~£150 a week maybe? so £600 a month (unless I landed a really good part time job). Living in London, where the rent will be more than that alone. Plus having to pay the fees.

Guessing you must have landed a pretty good part time job!
 
  • #33
Azrael84 said:
2 years, not so bad I suppose. Personally I don't know how I'd survive on 3 days~£150 a week maybe? so £600 a month (unless I landed a really good part time job). Living in London, where the rent will be more than that alone. Plus having to pay the fees.

These are good points. Why not take a year out, do a PGCE, and become a part-time physics teacher? Also, when you fail to get a professional career as a string theorist*, you will then also have a respectable career to fall back on...

*OK, you might succeed, but better to cover all bases, especially the most probable ones!
 
  • #34
I've posted this somewhere else recently, hopefully I'm not breaching any rules by pasting it here.

Hi all ,
I recently finished the MSc in QFFF part-time while working full-time in investment banking. My background is a BSc math degree from Imperial.
I spent most of my time self-studying and took vacations for the exams. I went to almost no lectures at all and I wish I had because I would have enjoyed this degree a lot more.
Most rewarding aspect was the thesis which has some remarks I have not been able to find in the literature.
My interest in physics is not related to my field of business in investment banking and I only took this degree for personal intellectual satisfaction. I wouldn't do a PhD in theoretical physics. This degree has, however, increased the range of tools I normally use (mathematical methods etc...)
I can't say how it compares to Part III. I went to a few lectures in Cambridge when I visited a friend and it seems to me that the level of difficulty is comparable. However, there is a lot more to choose from at Cambridge whereas there's a more limited range of courses at Imperial. I believe this was Imperial's Theory Group response to Part III as most lecturers at Imperial are Cambridge educated.
Hope this helps.
 

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